posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 01:29 AM
You don't understand how this works. You move to another country, if you can find one that will let you in. Unless you are wealthy, or you have close
family connections there, you will only get a temporary residence permit. Usually for one year, sometimes less, seldom two years. If you behave
yourself and are not a burden, you may well be able to get another temporary residence permit. And if you still are not a nuisance you may get another
one. Eventually, you will probably get a permanent residence permit but that is never guaranteed.
What you don't get is citizenship until you have lived in a country some years. In Switzerland it's 12 years. In India 20. And still no
In my case, I went to Germany as a tourist, got a civilian job with the US army, did that three years, decided that I couldn't live on the wages so
quit and went down to the foreigners office. I got a two month residence permit. That means I had to find a job that no one wanted within two months
or leave. I got a job washing dishes. Paid twice what I made on base. They then gave me a one year permit. After the one year permit they still
didn't have any germans who wanted to wash dishes so they gave me a two year permit. Then after that they gave me another two year permit. Then when
that expired I went in to get a five year permit, but found out that the time that I had worked on base counted as residence in Germany so I asked
for, and received, the right of residence (Aufenthaltsberechtigung). I could never have been deported. I could also have asked for citizenship since I
had been in the country 8 years, but that meant that I would have had to renounce the american since Germany doesn't usually allow dual citizenship,
and I didn't want to do that. At that time.
You are looking at a long haul if you want to become a citizen somewhere else. You might go into another country and renounce your US citizenship, no
US law against it even if you don't have another one, but some countries, for instance Thailand and Switzerland, make it a requirement to have a
valid passport or other government issued travel document to be in them, and if you give up your passport, you go to jail. They try to deport you back
where you came from, but if they won't take you back since you renounced, they let you rot in jail as an undocumented alien. Otherwise, every poor
african and asian and latin american would go to Switzerland as a tourist, and until they entered the schengen area Switzerland had a relatively open
policy about visiting without visas, and issuing visitors visas to those who needed one, and renounce, and since they couldn't be deported, could
live in Switzerland forever, bypassing swiss immigration laws. No, that's not how it works. They take in enough foreigners legally, 1/4 of the
population there is foreign born, but they draw the line at people who try to bypass the system. Come, visit, leave.
If you don't have a passport from a first (European economic area, US, white commonwealth, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan) or at least second world country
(latin america, Caribbean ), traveling is almost impossible. You are treated as badly as a Bangladeshi or Ethiopian, someone that they don't want to
take the chance of letting in because you might stay, so they just won't give you a visa. And without a passport from a first or second world
country, you basically can't go anywhere without a visa. And if you get a visa at all, it might be for a period of days. A russian citizen friend of
mine got a visa for Germany that was good for 5 days, and it wasn't a transit visa.
There was a gentleman several years ago who worked in the software industry. He renounced his US citizenship in protest of US government policies, but
he already lived in the Caribbean, and bought himself a passport from the african country of Mozambique for $5000. Mozambique is so poor that they
sell citizenship. Well, it kept him out of jail, but the only places you can go without a visa with a Mozambique passport are Singapore for 30 days,
the Philippines for 3 weeks, and Hong Kong for two weeks. Everywhere else you need a visa before you go, and what country is going to take the chance
of you staying? As soon as he had lived five years on his british colony island, he applied for and got british citizenship. His wife was very ill
and had had to come to the US for treatment, and the US government wouldn't give him, a citizen of Mozambique, a visa. As a british citizen, he
didn't need a visa to visit. Travel is much easier.
You can google all the information you need, but please understand how difficult life can be if you are not a citizen of a country that people
actually want to live in. Or even a citizen of a country people don't want to live in. Don't end up stuck in an airport for years like some people
have had happen to them. Can't leave the transit area of the airport, can't go back where they came from. Stateless people do not have the RIGHT to
be in any country on this planet. No place HAS to take them in. At most they have permission. Not the same at all.