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ADHD Could Be Misdiagnosed In Nearly 1 Million US Kids Say Researchers

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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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I agree and disagree with you. I believe these kids should have brain imaging done asap because if the child does in fact have ADHD or ADD then it becomes a neuro developmental problem which is catagorized under medical condition.

Yes, there are some kids from abusive homes can and do tend to show some symptoms of ADHD and ADD.

There are also some kids intolerant of some foods (not necessarily just food colourings etc but may include gluten/casein) or have an intolerance to wool, animal hair and/or feathers that can also show symptoms of ADHD or ADD.

The list varies.

I would strongly suggest to first have a C-Peptide Test (blood & urine) and brain imaging to rule out either. If these tests are negative then I'd have the family (parents?) profiled.




posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 10:31 AM
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Can't stop laughing over that one LOL



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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ADHD and other attention related disorders which are apparently increasingly prevalent in Western children are false. They are a red herring distracting us from other issues within late capitalist society.

Bad parenting is the root cause of such problems. If parents do not instill even a modicum of discipline in the children before a certain age, then the child will struggle to ever behave in a societally appropriate fashion. This is not about social control, or any other realistic conspiracy found through education and indoctrination. It is a basic aspect of a functional society which is failing to thrive in a great number of unfortunate young people, many of whom have parent that are incapable of apopropriate behaviour themselves.

When children have children, and do not now how to socialise or control them appropriately we see such disorders increase. Another side to inadequate parenting is the inability to provide healthy food for their child. This leads to an increased intake of additives, preservatives and sugars, which lead to poor behaviour.

What is the key to all of this?

Poverty. Inequality. Lack of opportunity and education, now going back several generations, since the neo-liberal economic agenda really took off.

Who benefits?

Big pharma. The comfortable classes who know that however bright, a working class or impoverished, disenfranchised child will never have the opportunity to challenge their very well educated, averagely intelligent child.

Who loses?

We all do. Society. Everyone of us.


Edit to say that these people are part of the same problem...

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[edit on 18-8-2010 by anarchosyndicalist]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:48 AM
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I agree there are too many kids diagnosed with adhd and add, but to say that all cases are a result of bad parenting just isn't true. There is a big difference in kids being raised as spoiled, rotten brats who only care about themselves and will hurt anyone who gets in their way, and kids who struggle to learn, comprehend, and express themselves.

I could go on and on about my struggles to raise an adhd child---the hours upon hours I spent in the evening tutoring her, that ended up with my child crying and feeling stupid because she just could not 'get it'. As a stay at home mom, I did everything the Dr.'s, and teachers told me to do, trying every way possible to try to get my child to learn, comprehend and then express what I taught her --from using magnetic letters, to colored film over her papers, etc. etc. It was only after I tried everything suggested to me and she failed to learn, that I tried medicine. Medicine, along with special education was the key to her success.

Oh and my child was diagnosed after 1. She had to go to summer school in kindergarden and 2. She was pulled out of 2nd grade after 3 months and put back in 1st grade. She was older than all of her classmates.

Not all kids prescribed adhd and add drugs are in the category you suggest.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by virraszto]

[edit on 18-8-2010 by virraszto]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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My son, which will be tweleve in Dec, was placed on Ritalin at a young age by my ex-wife. I remember the talk she had with me about it. It seemed that he couldn't get along with her other two children, born after him, he refused to mind her and his teachers at school, and was acting out in class. She carried him to hteir family doctor and had him placed on the drug for ADHD. I fought this endevour and refused to allow him to take the drug while he was with me. Since that day, the school has, for the past three years, tried to advance him because he completes all classwork early and correctly. When he is with me, I have no trouble out of him at all. He always does exactly what I say. I've never once had to disipline him for stepping out of line, because he just doesn't do it. He is well mannered, reads, and can beat any game you place before him. I take him on nature hikes quite often, and he can tell you exactly if any plant we come across is poisonous or not. He can even track the animals of the forrest. I don't believe he has this ADHD or ADD. He is simply a young man that is trying to work out his own path. Why my ex-wife can't see this is beyound me. But she was never too good at patience.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Of course any parent who would put their child on this medicine for "just being a kid" is nuts.
I mean if you want to have a kid Zombied out and completely dependent on prescription drugs be my guess. Ritalin is a nice babysitter...i suppose.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by packinupngoin]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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speaking of babysitters:
Thorazine cleaned out all the
State Mental Institutions in the late 1950's.

All the meds given today are nothing
more that putting people in chemical
straight jackets and temporary frontal
lobotomies anyway.
And total disassociation from emotions,
a plasticity of passion.

plastic coated pills for the plastic coated mind.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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The over-medication of the US, and the developed world at large, is a tragedy. I'm 19 years old, and so thankful that I have never been prescribed any mind-altering pharmaceuticals. I can't imagine what horrors they wreak on a still-developing mind.

ON a side note, I also believe that young people nowadays are being pumped full of hormones at an alarming rate. I live in the more remote regions of Northern California, behind the "Redwood Curtain", and we have a generous amount of organic and natural foods and products, due to our more self-sustaining lifestyle.

However, right now I am visiting family down in Orange County, Southern California, and it is alarming. I am seeing girls at the beach that I am (rather) attracted to, and they look like they have fully developed bodies but when I talk to them I learn they are only 14 or 15 years old!
Yikes! Where I live, on the other hand, I am no longer attracted to high-school girls in our area.

The point of my off-topic shpiel is that due to our organic products and foods, people in our more isolated region are still maturing at the proper rate, but down here in Socal there are so much additives and hormones that puberty is being literally jump-started and the process happens to fast. It is very frightening.

NEXUS



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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When I was going to grad school for my degrees in Psychology in the 90's, I worked for a health insurance company. One of my co-workers had a son who was not paying attention in class . . . in second grade. The teacher instructed the mother to have her son put on Ritalin because he has ADHD. When she refused stating he had no attention or hyperactivity issues at home, the teacher stated he would not be able to come back to class unless he was on medication and rthe school administrator reported her to CPS.

I told her to get an attorney and file a complaint against the school and the teacher for practicing medicine without a medical license, because they were not qualified nor licensed to diagnose medical conditions.

When CPS knocked on her door, she told them she refused to put her son on Ritalin because he had no behavioral issues at home and didn't feel a 2nd grade teacher OR the school administrator had the qualifications to diagnose her son with physical or mental health issues.

She was ordered to have her son evaluated by a psychiatrist, the school was required to admit the boy to class so a qualified third-party could evaluate him and he was evaluated at home. Because this mother stood up for her parenting rights, it was discovered that OVER HALF of the children in her son's class were put on Ritalin because the TEACHER told the parents the child was ADHD. The parents took their children in to doctors and the doctors just prescribed the drug without ANY medical evaluation.

It turns out, the teacher was lazy and had no idea how to keep the children stimulated and engaged in class, so the classroom of 25 7-year-olds would get bored and goof off. Upon further investigation, it was learned several other teachers were doing the same thing to keep their students quiet zombies in their seats.

After I earned my doctorate, I worked with Autistic children for nearly a year using the Lovaas approach. I quickly noticed that every other month we would have a surge in new cases and the alternating months we would have very few new cases. When I spoke up about this to another therapist at the clinic, she laughed and said:

"Yeah. We all laugh at the doctor who tests and diagnoses them. Every month he diagnoses 90% Autistic and 10% ADD or ADHD and the next month it's the opposite. It's a big joke."

Unforunately, none of these children were ever tested for food allergies or their diets examined. The parents of one child actually DID have their son tested and put on herbal supplements and he improved remarkably. Unfortunately, part of the Lovaas approach is to reward with food. The tray of rewards included all kinds of items with preservatives and additives (like dyes).

After leaving that company, I relocated to a suburb near the metropolis area I worked in a private practice for several years. One of the neighbors I befriended had a little girl starting 1st grade and a 3-year-old son. Both were very articulate and interacted extremely well together. Then her son received a vaccination. Within two weeks, he was displaying all the signs of a child with autism. I didn't want to raise concern in my friend, as she was already upset by the drastic change in his behavior, so I recommended she take him in to his pediatrician and have him tested for food allergies and lyme's disease (we lived in a wooded area).

His pediatrician was so alarmed by the sudden changes, not only did he examine the boy's diet, ran every test possible and refer him to a developmental specialist; he ALSO contacted the manufacturer of the vaccination given to the boy. They said they'd investigate it, but basically gave him the brush-off.

There is something to be said for eating foods as nature/God provides them and letting the body build its own defenses to disease. We need to stop genetically and chemically altering our foods and return to a natural diet that does not consist of dyes, preservatives, additives, hormones, antibiotics, etc.

If it were not for my first-hand experiences to witness the above, I would probably still be an ignorant, egotistical Psychologist instead of doing my own research and discovery evolving me into an enlightened spiritual being.

The title of this OP is a gross misunderstatement at best. S & F!

[edit on 8/18/2010 by Nivcharah]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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There have always been kids that are smarter, faster or more talented - same thing applies to adults. Its just the way we are - now every time a kid looks the other way in class he gets labeled with ADHD - they give him ritalin which has side effects (it made my step son very sick). They want to pour meds down the throats of our kids to make their jobs easier and have better control over the children - this is wrong - just wrong - no other way to look at it. A child being labeled as slow is damaging, it isn't going to boost their self esteem and make them more relaxed to help them learn easier. My advice - don't let them medicate your kids just for their convenience!



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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There have always been kids that are smarter, faster or more talented - same thing applies to adults. Its just the way we are - now every time a kid looks the other way in class he gets labeled with ADHD - they give him ritalin which has side effects (it made my step son very sick). They want to pour meds down the throats of our kids to make their jobs easier and have better control over the children - this is wrong - just wrong - no other way to look at it. A child being labeled as slow is damaging, it isn't going to boost their self esteem and make them more relaxed to help them learn easier. My advice - don't let them medicate your kids just for their convenience!



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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There have always been kids that are smarter, faster or more talented - same thing applies to adults. Its just the way we are - now every time a kid looks the other way in class he gets labeled with ADHD - they give him ritalin which has side effects (it made my step son very sick). They want to pour meds down the throats of our kids to make their jobs easier and have better control over the children - this is wrong - just wrong - no other way to look at it. A child being labeled as slow is damaging, it isn't going to boost their self esteem and make them more relaxed to help them learn easier. My advice - don't let them medicate your kids just for their convenience!



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 03:40 PM
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Have no idea why the double post - sorry.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:04 PM
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triple post, are you adadadhd?
ADADADHD? lol



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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I put stars on all three CD because your av is purple...
just kidding
authorities' convienience should not even be the reason we medicate them! let alone the kids...
time for class, here's your valium Mr Jones...

My buddy has an autistic child he asked me to help with his homework
he's 5 years at ten...
First I play guitar, that opened a door, he seems to be taking to it well..
The other thing I notice is that if I speak about half normal speed, he gets much more of what is said then he usually does...so I suspect that there is a lack of individual assesment coing on, its a cookie cutter aproach, and that just can't be good.


[edit on 20-8-2010 by Danbones]

[edit on 20-8-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:27 PM
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They seem to expect kindergartners, 1st and sometimes 2nd graders to sit on a carpet in little squares, barely big enough to contain them if they are sitting still, for long periods. If they stray outside the boundary of their squares it is counted as a behavioral violation. At least this is what I saw in California. Any normal boy would have trouble with that. Girls seem to be able to handle it better, although I suppose they don't enjoy it either.

When we moved to the east coast and a better school district, we never saw this any more. Kids had desks, or were allowed to arrange themselves on the floor or carpet in a normal way and squirm and move around.

If I had had to stay in a little square or get in trouble, I would have gotten in a lot of trouble. I think they're just looking for an excuse to put kids in trouble, especially boys.

They really hate boys in school. There is a conspiracy against them. Schools are designed to make boys fail in the early grades, to put them in a situation where they will be labeled, maybe permanently.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:29 PM
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If he's autistic there should be an IEP, and that by definition is individual. Something's not being done right if he is not assessed individually.

But if you've found some things that work, communicate them to the school if you haven't already.



posted on Aug, 20 2010 @ 11:40 PM
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I had a daughter that was legitimately diagnosed ADD way back in 1975. She had zero attention span on a one to one. She required physical contact (as in squeezing her hands while talking to her) for her to focus. She did NOT have a negative behavior problem - - other then lack of focus.

I was lucky in finding a Pediatrician that believed No One knows a child better then its mother. And medication is for school only. He told me "I don't care if you have to turn your home into a padded cell". NO Meds at home.

We used holistic diet - no sugar - no additives - etc. Also put her on a swim team which is a patterning exercise - burned energy - and you swim against your own times - so you do not fail.

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She later had a son - - who was very hyper. We nicknamed him Tigger. But he was not ADD. He was just hyper. Anyone who's had a legitimate ADD kid - knows the difference between ADD & normal hyper.

Needless to say - - we had a few choice words for the school that tried to medicate him.

By the way - - this child was tested in reading skills in first grade as reading at a 12th grade level.

Now I have a 2 year old grandson who's been recommended by his pre-school for Autistic screening.

UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 07:31 AM
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It is as individual, done by the staff that
cookie cutter lumped him in with all the other kids.

By definition IEP sounds nice Individual EP.

But you have to consider the source as to who is applying the individuality.



posted on Aug, 21 2010 @ 08:00 AM
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adhd or add is not an illness nor a sickness,
its a combination of symptoms and some of thous symptoms might be linked to neurological behaviour and can be called in some instances an illness or dysfunction


its the same with ptsd , its not an illness nor a sickness its a term they use to describe a combination of symptoms and some of thous symptoms might be linked to neurological behaviour and can be called in some instances an illness or dysfunction


its bad grammar and lazy doctor work,

you dont lump 10 patients who complain about lower back pains in to a group called " LBPD / lower back pain disorder"



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