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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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reply to post by JustJoe
 


I agree with you one hundred percent. This is not an issue of indvidual rights, but an issue of rights for all.

The same people that flail against illegal immigrants using the school system are probably the same that are on here screaming about privacy. How do you expect the public school system to determine who is taking advantage of it without doing stuff like this?

If you're so concerned about them seeing your house in a mess just ask then to come back another time and clean up.

If that's not the reason you won't let them in then you are not telling the whole story.




posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Unst0ppable0ne

If you don't want the police in, fine, don't let them in. If you don't want any federal agent in, fine, don't let them in. You can deny access to your house all you want... but a damn school official??? Have some common sense! What could they possibly do besides look around?



They can call CPS and have the kid removed from custody.
Duh.

You actually don't know what your talking about.

BTW it's a FOOTBALL POLITICS ISSUE.

Their goal is to remove the kid from the team. This is how high school football politics work.

IF you had known that, you wouldn't have ranted the way you did.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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Which makes it just one more reason why sports should be removed from schools. Schools are for learning, not for letting all the dumb jocks throw balls at each other.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:18 PM
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So you would rather go through all this trouble, and deny your kid his football practice, etc., because you are too paranoid to let a school find visual evidence that your child lives there?? Seriously, I think people like you have a weird mental issue.


Yep, and some of us think people like you have a weird mental issue for not growing a pair and standing up to a bully, or did you not understand the escalation of force present in the OP's tone? There is a huge difference between someone knocking on the door, and upon being answered - explaining clearly why you are there, and asking politely to come in.....and banging on the door, making demands for access and information regarding one's children. Clearly you do not have children of your own.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Unst0ppable0ne
You know what my parents would have done? ...Let them in... Why? Because they aren't douche bags. They have nothing to hide.


As I read that UnstOppable1, I thought of that old Victor Hugo quote: "Adversity makes men, and prosperity makes monsters."

You then equate having a plumber come to your house to fix something that you have hired his services for, to that of school administrator ("official" is the word you used, and the attentive reader understands already how your mind thinks of this) who is paid by a Robin Hood like character that commits armed robbery from each and every family in the neighborhood and pays for your "official".


and they understand that sometimes in life you have to sacrifice 5 minutes of privacy. Get over it.


Guys in prison do the same thing as a cellmate wriggles behind them. I can see that there are compromises and rewards that each are willing to make. The convict forfeiting a few moments to his cellmate gets an extra dessert (or maybe his head isn't bashed in), and your parents allow "officials" into their house get the peace of knowing you will continue to get valuable education at the local state-skewl.

Not everyone is willing however to bend over in front of a cellmate or someone purporting to be "official". Therein comes Hugo's quote as I see it. Monsters are made in the surplus of officialdom, fielty, subjugation and the relinquishing of one small element: consent.

You're definitely right tho-


People these days.....



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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Seig, Heil!!! Seig, Heil!!! Seig, Heil!!! ......oh wait, I thought we were living in National Socialist 1930s Germany. My bad. But seriously, don't let them in, if they are harassing you this much, it seems as if it's not worth the effort you have your child go to that school. That's what I'd do. But probably the better approach is to read all the paperwork you signed, review the laws in that district and be sure you are doing the right thing for your child.



This all happened because I took one school's star football player to another district due to a move.


Also, are you sure that is the reason why you are being investigated? You should record them next time they come to the door. Always have some record of what is happening just in case for what you don't think of.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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If you choose to have a child and put him in public school, I suppose they have the right to see how you live. They think you are hiding something, so appease them. I know it hurts, but you are the one who wants to use public schools.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by 2weird2live2rare2die
i hope most others feel the same way. if every child molester got brutally murdered i bet it would happen a lot less.


I've seen many threads here that indicate you are certainly not alone by any means. And I am in total agreement.

Having also had cousins molested either in school camps (the coward killed himself rather than face justice - but meh, saved tax payer money) or raped by a trusted friend, I have no sympathy at all towards the monsters.

If every child molester just manned up and killed themselves - I'd think is better than someone with a moral conscious being incarcerated.

But anyway, this is off topic and I think the topic is worthy of concern.

I was actually reminded of an episode of the simpsons I saw a while back (yeah I do indulge in inanity at times, the stress of the world wont go away while I do.
where homer had to live near where they sent the kids - upon being sent to a posher school..

I don't know how things work in the US, but I just don't get it.

Kids need education. What does it matter where the parents live? Is it funding? Votes for a electorate? I .. I can't work it out.

Surely an educated child is beneficial over a child forced to sit out education, just for menial things like this. Has apartheid now really become a class issue that is to be accepted?

If the OP (wherever he may be) did not have his children living at home, what is the difference? It's not as if they are living in a tent in the local park, surely?

An *IF* that is the concern, then wtf is the school doing playing the role of investigator? Is there not a welfare system for children in place to make sure children are looked after?

I cannot work it out.. ha... Australia, where we don't have to hide as much - yet - from tptb...



[edit on 18/8/2010 by badw0lf]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:29 PM
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All you people about tyranny and rights and all that do realize that public schooling is a public service. It is well within their rights to make sure it is not being abused. I am very antiestablishment, but I don't see this as unreasonable at all. They're not asking to search your residence. They just want to make sure the kid lives there.

My little brother switched districts and the same thing happened just a year ago. When my sister and I started school in California in 1997 after moving here from Texas they did the same thing. They're just trying to make sure you're not abusing the system. It only takes maybe ten minutes and they're usually very polite. They're not going to ask to see your room or dig through closets or anything.

They did not violate your rights. They asked to come in, you said no, they left. That is called respecting your rights. You need to be respectful as well and realize that other people have rights too and they are only looking out for those people's rights by making sure you aren't cheating the system.

Don't be so unreasonable.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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OP -- you did not explicitly say this, so I'll ask:

Is the home in question the primary residence for the child in question?



[edit on 8/18/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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WOW! Alex Jones talks about these stories on his shows, and I thought they sounded "stretched" But every day more people are telling the same stories, Stick to your Guns and do not give in-They will try to arrest you for not having your kids in school next.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by jonjanderson]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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The plumber is a great analogy. The school system is a service you are using too. They are there to verify residence. They are not there to search for.criminal activity. They want to make sure the service is not being abused.

Judging by the lack of information and response from OP I think it is safe to say something fishy is going on.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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Hire an attorney.

Have them write a letter for you stating that your son lives at the address stated.

Threaten them with a lawsuit if he is denied access to the football team or if the school district attempts any more incursions to inspect your house.

If the school district needs to inspect your house, then it needs to inspect the house of every athlete in the entire district to determine eligibility. You will not be the exception.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Read very carefully the registration form/s you signed as a parent. This/these registration forms, presumably with your signature on them, function as a contract. If, in that contract/registration form, you authorized an investigation of residency that includes allowing a school representative into your home, then you have signed a contract waiving any rights you would have to the contrary.



What? If she's in the U.S. and these people are harassing her and trying to coerce her into letting them in so they can essentially "search" her residence after she has asked them to leave, she needs to call the police.

The school district personnel don't qualify as law enforcement officers and they don't have the same authority as the police to come in and do this. Let the district call CPS if they frickin' feel like it! CPS isn't gonna do squat, especially if her home isn't in a deplorable condition and her kids haven't been neglected.

It doesn't matter what her contract with the district says because it would be a civil contract and the police aren't gonna force her to comply when it's a civil matter. They'll tell her and district that the matter will have to be dealt with in court. In the meantime, if she tells the school staff to leave and they refuse, she should be able to have them arrested for trespassing.

The school district is playing with fire! This is an outrage!

Since when did a school district believe it has such authority?



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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I think that they visit so they can provide help or other services if required. I live in a city of 20K people. The surrounding area is very rural and poverty is a big problem. I think they have cut social services back so much that they are now enlisting the help of the teachers at public schools to stop in and do a check to make sure all is well.

I don't really have a problem with it (except now I have to clean up the house a bit
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I love my kids and provide them with proper food, clothing, toys, good hygiene, blah, blah, blah. However, I am very sure that a lot of parents/kids struggle with those things and possibly don't know how to find services to help them. The teachers on home visits may be able to help with services available to parents/children or point them in the right direction if parenting/home issues are a problem.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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I'd ask for a warrant, seeing how even the police aren't able to search an American's home without one ( supposedly ). Not to mention Who needs to know what types of food you eat? and to go through dresses and closets? really...? For what marketing research firm of a school is this?

Are they asking for Blood, stool and semen as well?

Honestly, football politics or not, this is something you just don't need nor live in a country to even allow to persist.

Maybe time for a private investigator to be hired, and see what dirt you can find on these people to make sure your sending your child to a school you are 100% satisfied with, show up at their houses, and ask to see the contents of their cabinets and closets, make sure no dirty dishes are in the sink, and the trash is recycled properly.

You can only shake us up so much before we pop.

Be AMERI-CAN! The revolution shall not be Televised.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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I can see where the school system is comming from here (But they are going to far IMO)

My sister has 2 children and she is going out and dating diffrent men just so she can say that her kids live at their addresses so her kids can go to a diffrent school than they are supposed to. She wants them to go to a diffrent school because the schools that they are supposed to go to are some of the roughest ones in the area.

Instead of pulling this BS she should just move to the part of town covered by the district that she wants them to go to.

But as to the OP's original post. The school district has the right to verify the kids live there, but the way they are diong it IS harrassment, and should not be allowed.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:59 PM
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last time a plumber came to my house I called him......Just saying.


Back to Op

So I guess providing proper paperwork to verify residence isn't enough? I would be the most mad about the school insinuating I'm lying, but we really don't the know the whole story, so...

I have to agree with the above poster who said it's Football Politics, because I don't know about where you're from but here, property tax pays for public schools. If its the same there and your home is in that schools district, you would be paying for it anyways, whether or not your son attended. That makes it hard for me to believe it's merely a financial issue.

Move to a different city? Is that an option? I know easier said than done.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 01:09 PM
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I would ask if I could take a look at their place of residence and see how they've been conducting themselves.

"If they've got nothing to hide they've got nothing to fear." Right?



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 01:11 PM
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Is the school visiting the residence of every student to verify they live there? If not, why did they single you out? and if your son is there why not just have him come to the door?

Honestly my instinct tells me there is a great deal of information you are not telling us.





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