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I was abused by a gang of CHAVS! A guide to the Chav!

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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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sorry to hear about your experience, but i have to disagree with you on the term chav, or label people on there attire. you cannot label someone on the way they look. There may well be a group of these people outside every shop in england and trust me there is, im from one of the worst parts of Nottingham and just 2 years ago a man was murdered because he was asked for a cigarette just like you just 20 footsteps away from my door.
Im not sticking up for these gangs in any way shape or form but to label someone in the way they speak or dress is totally immoral, some of these chavs as you like to label them dont hang around on street corners and rob people they like to do things with there lifes, as in my young brother who is a music producer and himself an MC he dresses in adidas bottoms and likes to wear a cap, dont mean he's a robber or a thug. I listen to 60's music and like to wear bootcut jeans a flowery shirt and play guitar does that make me a stoner? when i dont even touch any drugs. In your picture on your sig if that is you I could label you a Nazi and are completely responsible for the persecution of millions of jews! you get my drift. People change with the times dont mean we all need a label, everyone gets brought up in different cultures and adjust according to them times to label someone for the way they adjust is wrong wether its Emo ,Grebo,Chav.. whatever you all get my drift




posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Hehe - Well, sucks for you, but your experience can be a common occurrence in some parts of the UK


I unfortunately, live near one of the dozen new built cities around the UK, Crawley... And let me say that calling it a cesspit is an astronomical understatement.
I live in one of the outlying 'quaint' villages not too far from 'it', though at the rate of 'new build houses' (council houses) springing up, it wouldn't surprise me that our area will be considered Crawley with in the next 5-10 years (Time to move me thinks - while the property still has some value).

I usually cycle 20 miles everyday. The route I follow takes me to the very outskirts of Crawley then back up to another town, before heading back to my house.
About 8 months ago, I had left the house a little later than usual (1730) - Bear in mind that it was in the Winter months, so it was already dark - Half the route is on quiet roads and the other on bridal-way (Disused railway... Basically a dirt path).
More or less 5 miles into the journey I was flagged down on the bridal-way by a lone teen (Usually I don't stop unless its a family, someone walking a 'real' dog or another cyclist).
He was enquiring as to how much longer it would take to get to Three Bridges, which is the town on the Outskirts of Crawley and where one of the main connecting stations of the region is located.
I advised that it was a good 45 minutes walk. Next thing I know I am surrounded by at least 6 other hooded teens, all leering and provocatively pouncing towards me and laughing.
One of them had a large stick, and honestly I was bricking it as I knew what was coming next.. They were either going to beat the crap out of me - Or kill me - and then steal my gear and £900 mountain bike


There were no other options going through my mind. This wasn't a prank or joke. Me fighting back verbally or physically was only going to make matters worse. At the same time, being weak would no doubt provoke them further. They aren't looking for easy fights!

Perhaps I do need to stand up for myself better, but outnumbered and unarmed is not a good scenario to start with.

However, I am incredibly fortunate, as moments later a group of cyclists came hurtling round the corner, saw what was happening and effectively got stuck in, forcefully eradicating the threat.

Im no hero nor will I ever claim to be. I am quite happy to admit how scared I was in that moment. And had I not been 'saved' I know that I would be in hospital.
(Sadly I know a handful of people that have been beaten up for no reason and ended up in hospital with stab wounds, broken ribs/punctured lungs, cracked heads and sever bruising - It really is common)

This inccident, however, did not phase me. I still cycle the same route most days. I have not encountered a threat of that nature since. But quite often when cycling past the council houses, both on the bridal way and roads. You will find teens hailing abuse and throwing stones, or at the worst of times chucking logs in the road onto oncoming traffic and cyclists.

Occasionally you will hear on the news of teens standing on a foot bridge over the M23 (major motorway connecting the seaside city of Brighton to the M25 'bypass' motorway (Or large carpark
)around London.) chucking stones/ bricks and logs onto the cars below - Really not clever or amusing...

But yes, my experience is similar to what many face daily.

I can not stand this re-introduction of Neanderthals. It is just as unacceptable as global poverty. It will be the downfall of a nation if the behaviour isn't curbed.
And it is only getting worse as these people breed at the same rate as bunny rabbits. Frankly they need a cull and I am not referring to the cute bunnies


People of Britain, please stay safe and never resort to their level and decree of intimidation.
I for one will not be so cowardly, even if next time it kills me. It needs to make the news and the government MUST take action.

With all that said, when I am feeling anger towards these lesser humans, I like to watch this video - It never fails to put a smile on my face



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[edit on 18/8/2010 by Kliskey]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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I swear to God. I don't know why. But for some reason; "Chavs" sounds like the name of a brand of cheese-flavored snack-crackers you find at Tescos. lol.

Seriously. We have 'Chavs' over here where I'm from (I'm from Texas, living in a predominantly Hispanic region. I'm not really from Ukraine.) Down here they're called "Pachucos", Chavaros, and Pelados. Plus a few other different words to describe them. Your basic American-equivalent of a Chav.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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yeah chav scum suck. i have no problem as I'm
"ard" but get your self a dog lead, a chain type.
excellent weapon,swipe,strangle,and lead chav
around like the dogs they are once beat.

put that in ya bag,if the police do turn up and
that is a BIG if,you walk dogs with it.

knife is a no no i know its not fair but more
trouble than there worth.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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I guess the term "CHAV" is just the lastest in a string of terms going back to early days,when we had "vagabonds" stealing clothes from washing lines.
Its a term we use for the undesirable social elements of today,
but it really goes way back,and as folks have already said,it really is something we should all feel responsible for IMO.

Thats why I agree with all those who stand up and intervene when they see some young kid getting mugged or hassled by chavs/thugs.

Everyone should do so.
Its is our duty IMO.

Most of these kids ain't that bad anyhow..its just they are what they know.
Same as your child soldiers in Mogadishu really.

But this is in the UK.
Should not be like this,but always has and always will.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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although I must agree that in most situations a woman desirves the same pay rate as a man.

I thik the feminist movement did nothing more than hide the fact that a one income family would not be able to afford a real life.

at one time a man could work one job and support his whole family leaving the woman at home to raise the children properly. I wouldnt mind if the man stayed home and the woman workrd for the same rate of pay.

its just that thru the womans movement they made us all to need a two income family to survive. thats the real bitch of all of it now two must work to provide what one did and we sucked it up as fair labor practice.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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im sorry to hear of what happened to you.

but im afraid to say , it doesn't matter if your hubby has a punch as powerful as a nuke or whatever, chavs are dirty fighters, you hit one, you've got 100 to contend with!

im sure i don't need to say that they would also be armed, lock stock style. chavs are to be seen as a group of monkeys etc, i have lived in the 'hood' as they call it, and experienced the nasty side of chavs.

well, until the education situation is sorted out, then we will have more and more chavs running about.

oh, and im afraid, i say 'blud' or 'Ez' / 'skins' 'sup' 'brethren' 'fam' 'isit' etc etc
but that doesnt ,make me a chav!

peace blud!



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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Get yourself one of these babies.

www.tbotech.com...

Less dangerous then a knife, and easier to use.

You can pull it out anytime you feel threatened, and no one will know you have a weapon in your hand.

Add in a reasonable pair of sunglasses/goggles and some pepper spray, and you will be able to protect your self from a large group of these thugs.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by brettcal82
sorry to hear about your experience, but i have to disagree with you on the term chav, or label people on there attire. you cannot label someone on the way they look.


I totally agree with the sentiment of your post brettcal82, you're correct - but over time the meaning of words evolve.

Whilst the true meaning of Chav refers to a style of clothing from 10 years ago... & as such to label any thug a Chav is incorrect & unfair to others who dress in a similar way - but are not violent/stupid ...the reality though now is that, the meaning of the word Chav has literally changed & it is now used more as a general label for ignorant/thugs rather than specifically a particular dress style.

This is unfair if you stand by the original meaning just as you state - but it doesn't really mean that anymore (in general) most people these days use the word in a different way to convey a different meaning rather than specifically the original meaning.

There's lots of examples of English words where the meaning has changed.
It's constantly happening.



Edit for spilling mistooks

[edit on 18/8/2010 by moobaawoof]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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those pieces of need to meet some canadians then they would learn some respect, here in canada teens are a probelm but not like that because (kinda embarrsed to say it) but when a teen starts giving an adult trouble that teen is in for it, i live in lanark county, those kids would have gotten thier asses beaten.

People on the street come to help when someones in trouble which could turn the tables upsides down for 14 teens in about 30 seconds,.

Our youth is corrupt due to television which is controlled by the mainstream media who gets told what to do by the goverment, so really all this youthful rebellion is cause of our goverment(s) weather they are aware of it or not remains a mystery.

Perhaps this is the generation that loses all morals...which would be horrible because i really had hope for this species and now it seems to be going down a drain

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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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We discussed this thread on the ATSEuro show #5

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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by lunchmanstan
I thik the feminist movement did nothing more than hide the fact that a one income family would not be able to afford a real life.


Funny you should say this. I just read not moments ago, book still in hand, from The Cheapskate Next Door that:

in the early 70's most families were 1 income
today most are 2 income

Adjusted for inflation a single income family in the 70's made 32K on average. Average 2 income family today earns 73K.

The book goes on to say that adjusted for inflation the cost of clothing, food, appliances/electronics, and automobiles has decreased.

Yet the average 2 income family today is saving far less than the average single income family of the 70's and spending 15% of its income on debt compared to only 2% from the single income family of the 70's. All adjusted for inflation.

Most of that "extra" income from the second income actually goes to maintaining the source of the second income. Things like childcare and two cars are the biggest drains.

More often than not that second income is not only unnecessary but it's actually causing an undo burden on the first income.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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I hate to say it but it sounds like vigilante time in the UK.
If parents are not doing thier job, out of control teens need to be taken on in the dark by people twice thier age armed with wooden dowels.
It needs to happen often around the area where they normally gather. Individuals noted for violent behaviour need to be singled out and made examples of.
If you are not being defended by the police then there should be no moral compunction about doing whatever is nescessary to defend yourself, your family, your proprety, or your neigborhood.
Youths should be afraid to confront adults, if they are not, they are youths and therefore not to old to learn.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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Well Mr Brown, Im afraid we can't all have no sense of humor like yourself. I add humor to things which is obviously something that you lack. I wrote this AFTER the incident (as I was not actually hurt, so I can be far more relaxed about what happened) unlike If I wrote it while it was happening, then I would be far more Mr Yan Brown Serious. Not everything that covers an important subject on ATS needs to be treated with the same ferocity and intensity you show when you wear your stars and stripes pajamas to bed.

Maybe if I had been attacked by little greys instead you might be all over this with your tongue out.

Its your opinion and unfortunately we have to let "people" have there say too.





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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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You shoulda just pulled your knife and killed one of em to prove whose man.

I second the comment that this is EXACTLY like "a Clockwork Orange"

thirdly. It's gonna be like this all over soon as economies collapse. Mad Max scenarios are gonna get commonplace. So get ready to defend yourself to the death over something as trivial as a smoke.

My pointers. Aim for eye destruction and nut shots. Step on throats if people go down. If you go down your dead. 14 people will stomp you out. So fight while running if possible.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by stealthyaroura
reply to post by sassyncute
 


yeah chav scum suck. i have no problem as I'm
"ard" but get your self a dog lead, a chain type.
excellent weapon,swipe,strangle,and lead chav
around like the dogs they are once beat.

put that in ya bag,if the police do turn up and
that is a BIG if,you walk dogs with it.

knife is a no no i know its not fair but more
trouble than there worth.




Well said mate,I already mentioned a few alternative weapons including the dog lead.
its a cracker indeed.

Other good ones could be a "walking stick" or some kind of arrangement of the keyring to use as a form of protection device.

A real good dog though, may prevent them from even getting close IMO.
Just by looking,No violence neccessary...

My Loyal dog has had that effect on bad folks.
He's like a highly accurate character assesing computer.

Bad dudes atuomatically see him and walk away,as my dog grrowlls at them.

Nice folks my dog tries to lick.

Simples,but true.Proved over the years by my dog.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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I feel sorry for these poor Chavs, they are lambs to the slaughter, under the inescapable control of an evil genius...



...may God have mercy on us all!



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 05:07 PM
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Glad to know you survived the ordeal ok.

By the way - I love your sense of humour & your avatar is hilarious.

...(but I think you've got something on your top lip there ...you might want to just wipe that off...)



...you freak...


*runs off*



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b

Get yourself one of these babies.

www.tbotech.com...

Less dangerous then a knife, and easier to use.

You can pull it out anytime you feel threatened, and no one will know you have a weapon in your hand.

Add in a reasonable pair of sunglasses/goggles and some pepper spray, and you will be able to protect your self from a large group of these thugs.



Not allowed in the UK!
You get chucked in prison if you have such devices over here.
Unless you are the police of course.

In the UK you have to become familiar with using such items frying pans,broom handles,picture frames bin liners etc as weapons.

Use the household items at hand to protect your pad.

Fire extinguishers are particually good.
1of My faves in fact.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by n00bUK
hahah what a load of bollox, sorry - but true. Unless you have just gone through a time hole that took you back to march 2002 - i'll stick with my first staement, bollox.

the last time i seen a guy wearing a burbery hat with half mast addidas bottoms was years ago, in fact no it wasnt - it was the other day, the guy wearing them was a 28+ year old sale (bag'ed, creack'ed - drug user)

If your storey is true then no doubt they didnt fit that description you just painted. The word chav is just bull#, its used to stereotype kids who dont talk with the sterotyped english language and dont have the sterotyped english dress sence.

these kids that you encountered - you should of just straight told to nash the f*%k'on - its the only way. If your a grown woman then im sure you have come accross mouthy teens more than once in your life time.

No doubt they were wearing expensive trainers, expensive clothes and maybe even expensive jewelery - that mum and dad bought. These kids dont go out to rob people, to make money to buy # for them selfs, they would rather just cause harrasment to the neighbours and back chat people because they have f*%k all better to do with there mummycuddled lifes. And the odd 10 pound that they get from mummy and daddy is spend on beer and drugs like weed and pills.

ASBO's were brought in to try stop this nuisance - but they have stopped them now in most places in UK.


CHAV has gone, long gone.

I wear hoodies - i wear them becuase 1) they have a hood 2) they are warm and 3) i like hoodies, not because im going to rob an old ladies hand bag or steel that guys GPS out of his car.

Oh and when the OP states half mast addidas bottoms - no doubt shes referring to socks been tucked into the persons bottom trousers. You know why people do this? its because they ride a bicycle....This caught on and allot of young people started wearing there trouseres like this even if they are not using a bike. Its like a craze for a certain type of clothing, but anybody can do it whos got trousers and socks - yes..everybody.

I think your whole post is bull# and you made it for stars and americans to flag and get another gift of Enlgish life.


You want to know english youth life? whos not mummycuddled. Its going out to make money, anyway they can because the job situation thats handed out to the lower class youths is a bag of sh!te. unless your grades are good and you go ahead to college or even better you go to a private school then everything is A.O.K. But, if not - then you just better get knowing who and what to take, because if you dont - you see that guy with the burrbery hat and the half mast trouseres stealign cigs from tescos, well son thats going to be you.


Fortunately we have here a Chav expert here. Let me point out a few things in your statement that are not quite correct. Including nearly all the words you have tried to spell.

Half-Mast Adidas tracksuit bottoms mean the waist band was not around the waist but instead around the back of their knees. Not the SOCKS. this clearly explains to me your lack of comprehension of the English language.

chav Has gone? Really then why do countless people come across them daily. You are obviously a chav and wish to protect your fellow chavs. that is ok. You need to show loyalty.

ASBO's have stopped most of these people? I dont think soooooooo! Its a badge of honor for these kids.

You really need to read what others are writing on this post as a lot seem to of experienced the same thing i did.



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