Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by kieran1
I think you will find that there are quite a few Englishmen who are more than aware of England and The UK's involvement in Ireland's history and are
anything but naive.
It is re-assuring that you speak of moving forward, as must we.
The sight of innocent women and children being blown to pieces allegedly for something that happened centuries ago and which had absolutely nothing to
do with us is still firmly etched in the minds of many of my and the preceding generation.
But maintaining the current peace has to be the primary concern for everyone, Ireland can not be allowed to be dragged back into those dark times.
You raise some really interesting issues regarding the original inhabitants of The British Isles, of which very little is known, and The Celts and our
As you say though, for another time and place.
Agree with you!!, I believe 99 per cent of Citizens of the Island of Ireland, do not, in any way, wish to return to that violence again.
But there always a few, who don't accept the will of the people. And, they wish to undermine the Peace process.
However on a good note, they are not supported like they once were!! They are just a bunch of thugs hiding behind the Republican cause who have no
mandate from the population to carry out acts of horror.
I disagreed with the IRA methods, lot of the time. The bombings especially too many Civilians were killed and it was wrong.
But, I have to be honest. When you live in a society were you are treated as second class citizens everyday and your pushed and abused by a
government controlled by the protestant majority
This, and it happened forced young men of a catholic background to join such organisations and fight back. It was a apartheid system of Government.
The Protestant took the Jobs and Wealth and the Catholic was left to pick up the scraps, which wasn't much.
All this, could have been avoided, but the times were so different back then. The Catholic Church, had too much control over Ireland's school system
and it's population years ago and Government polices were often manipulated by the Church for their own evil agenda. But thank god, no pun intended.
The Catholic Church is a failing system and probably in a hundred years or so, be a non- existent entity within Ireland.
Ya, who ever the Pre-Celts were, in my opinion. They undoubtedly were highly educated, since they brought astronomy and the sciences from were they
came from. This can be proved!!
Stone Hedge England and Newgrange Ireland are perfect examples, here of what these Pre-Celt's build, when they arrived and set up home!!
I have been researching this subject on my spare time, but there is lot of information to weed through and decipher.
Trying to get the factual information and avoiding using false information as best I can. I have an inkling who the Pre-Celt's might have been?
Still doing research before forming solid conclusions on the subject.
Pre-Celt's might have been part of some lost Ancient civilization were something forced them from there land, and the new emerging Religion
(Christianity) that sprung up back then, played a part in them being forced out. Either they were forced out by the Romans or some other force before
them. The Pre-Celts were Pagan so you get what I am saying here. The Paranormal all this stuff they would love back then. But the New Church would
wish to wipe that out... Get me?
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