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Arizona Sheriff says US Border Patrol has retreated from the border

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posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:12 PM
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source-www.breitbart.com...

"WASHINGTON (AP) - The number of illegal immigrants in the United States has grown to as many as 12 million, and they now account for about one in every 20 workers, a new estimate says. "

And that was in March!

So you are trying to tell me that if we get rid of over 12 million people in the U.S, that it wont help AMERICANS get jobs?

Are you that delusional ?


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posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Jenisiz

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
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Please, explain to me what a behavioral therapist does?

Are you part of the VAST socialist system of government welfare and control system? Seems your system is breaking down.

Now, being a behavioral therapist, please tell me what is the condition called, when a person or group of persons continues the same actions or behaviors that cause them harm? Is their a disorder named for that?

As for the percentage of criminal invaders using ANY tax dollars, that is just irrelevant.

Also, as a SUPPOSED behavioral therapist, using derogatory descriptions for recipients of your socialist system, is QUITE enlightening.

Also, as for your attempt to defend the use of SLAVE labor, for all intents and purposes, to keep the price of products down, tell me oh wise one of the economic environment, does the stagnation of wages cause any harm to the market? Since you wanted to wade into the discussion of the economy.

Last but not least, are we being too politically incorrect for you? Pfft, who cares. Seems we are not one of YOUR socialist patients living off the teat of government. For the most part, we are the ones supporting this crap and we are getting sick of it.

Behavioral therapist, yeah RIGHT.


I currently work for Arizona's Children Association...am liscenced by the RBHA to provide Behavioral Modification to children and young adults. Feel free to send me a direct email if you require further proof...jaljohnson@arizonaschildren.org I'm sure you can find further credentials and information on our website if you wish to look. Now back to the other questions you've queired...You don't live here (In Arizona), so you lack a complete understanding of how hard the economy crisis has hit Arizona. It's not so much lower paying job availability as it is the higher paying jobs. We depend on cheap labor hear to afford to survive. I currently make 32k a year after spending 43k on my education. I am a single father and can barely afford to survive. Arizona has one of the highest unemployement rates in the nation because most Arizonans WILL not get off their asses and work outside in temps surpassing 110 degrees.

And as far as the disorder you inquired about...I believe you are referring to "self defeating personality disorder"


Are you working in a 110 temps?



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:17 PM
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[edit on 17-8-2010 by Annee]



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:19 PM
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Here is one of the mixed messages the government sends to locals.

(CNN) -- An Arizona man caught leaving water bottles in the desert for illegal immigrants has been sentenced to 300 hours of community service and a year of probation, an aid group said.

www.cnn.com...



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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So they suspect you of helping Illegals
That is the only time I see Border Patrol in someones front yard?



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
So they suspect you of helping Illegals
That is the only time I see Border Patrol in someones front yard?


In front of my house across the road on a canal.

Better?



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:24 PM
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We are routinely get helios checking us out so I could say the same about me Annee
So don't take it personal.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:24 PM
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Don't be blind...if you re-read my posts you will find that a majority of those who are on welfare, as I work with low income families, are American's on unemployment. Just last week one of the families I was working with just lost their home because their unemployment was suspended. They knew months before but persisted in sitting on their asses and waiting. I will say it now, just as I've always said it...American's think they are above picking strawberries, cleaning toliets and washing dishes...period. You can preach all you want about how many immigrants are here, but I can assure you they simply won't. I've lost faith in my fellow Americans, they feel b**ching about things is comparable to doing something about it. I worked at Native Newyorker as a fry cook during my time at ASU and let me tell you how frustrating it was. I got a job for a fellow classmate...he worked 2 shifts and quit saying that it was two hot in the kitchen. He just didn't even show up to work one day. It was rediculous...I was the only English speaking employee in the kitchen. But people don't want to see it...it's everyone else that seems incredibly delusional instead of accepting reality for what it is. If you are in the SW...be it Cali, AZ or Texas...go into a Mc Donalds or whatever fast food joint you have and count the number of employees that appear to be over 25 and "American". My son and I had churches chicken last night and I can swear you you hear and now, there was one broken english speaking hispanic maybe 45 and one 17 year old hispanic girl working the register.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Jenisiz

Also, more illegal drugs are trafficed through our Northern buddies (Canada) then through the Mexican border.


I doubt you can prove that because its pure BS
secondline

ps and I mean that in the smellyist sense of the word.

[edit on 17-8-2010 by Danbones]

[edit on 17-8-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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Could this be the effect of the actual drugs they are bringing here to this country?



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by ker2010

Originally posted by Jenisiz

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Jenisiz
 


Please, explain to me what a behavioral therapist does?

Are you part of the VAST socialist system of government welfare and control system? Seems your system is breaking down.

Now, being a behavioral therapist, please tell me what is the condition called, when a person or group of persons continues the same actions or behaviors that cause them harm? Is their a disorder named for that?

As for the percentage of criminal invaders using ANY tax dollars, that is just irrelevant.

Also, as a SUPPOSED behavioral therapist, using derogatory descriptions for recipients of your socialist system, is QUITE enlightening.

Also, as for your attempt to defend the use of SLAVE labor, for all intents and purposes, to keep the price of products down, tell me oh wise one of the economic environment, does the stagnation of wages cause any harm to the market? Since you wanted to wade into the discussion of the economy.

Last but not least, are we being too politically incorrect for you? Pfft, who cares. Seems we are not one of YOUR socialist patients living off the teat of government. For the most part, we are the ones supporting this crap and we are getting sick of it.

Behavioral therapist, yeah RIGHT.


I currently work for Arizona's Children Association...am liscenced by the RBHA to provide Behavioral Modification to children and young adults. Feel free to send me a direct email if you require further proof...jaljohnson@arizonaschildren.org I'm sure you can find further credentials and information on our website if you wish to look. Now back to the other questions you've queired...You don't live here (In Arizona), so you lack a complete understanding of how hard the economy crisis has hit Arizona. It's not so much lower paying job availability as it is the higher paying jobs. We depend on cheap labor hear to afford to survive. I currently make 32k a year after spending 43k on my education. I am a single father and can barely afford to survive. Arizona has one of the highest unemployement rates in the nation because most Arizonans WILL not get off their asses and work outside in temps surpassing 110 degrees.

And as far as the disorder you inquired about...I believe you are referring to "self defeating personality disorder"


Are you working in a 110 temps?


Depends on the Behavior the cl. is exhibiting. If it's an antisocial type behavior yes at first. I typically will began introducing cl.'s to low to moderate amounts of socialization by taking them to the park. It's a wide open area and they don't feel pressured to enter in conversation with patrons. Then we slowely work up going to the store and then the mall or museum. Monday I had a 10 year old suicide risk who has spent the last year hiding in his bedroom...I got him to at least interact with another child at Kiwanas Park.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
We are routinely get helios checking us out so I could say the same about me Annee
So don't take it personal.


I don't really. But - Phoenix is like Picante Sauce made in New York.

Its like when I lived near the Watts riots - - people on the east coast thought all of Los Angeles was under siege - - but it was very isolated.

Its not something you can be on the outside looking in.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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You sir are just another undercover open border supporter.

I know a handful of illegals in construction right now in NC who make 14-15 bucks a hour. Not every illegal is paid 3-4 bucks a hour.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Danbones

Originally posted by Jenisiz

Also, more illegal drugs are trafficed through our Northern buddies (Canada) then through the Mexican border.


I doubt you can prove that because its pure BS
secondline

ps and I mean that in the smellyist sense of the word.

[edit on 17-8-2010 by Danbones]

[edit on 17-8-2010 by Danbones]


Search James Burns..he mentions it. Bout a year or two ago. It was around the time the Billion dollar marijuana drug cartel was shut down up their. But you never hear about it...why, bc of the illegal immigrant worker agenda.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by ker2010
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You sir are just another undercover open border supporter.

I know a handful of illegals in construction right now in NC who make 14-15 bucks a hour. Not every illegal is paid 3-4 bucks a hour.


Shhhh....don't let my secret out. I'm not for open borders...I'm for goverment reform.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:44 PM
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that aint proving it
secondline.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:45 PM
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"Don't be blind...if you re-read my posts you will find that a majority of those who are on welfare, as I work with low income families, are American's on unemployment."


First Off- Americans PAID into their unemployment. Its not their fault they lost their jobs.

Second off- Most people dont have jobs because they cant compete with the unfair wages that these immigrants are willing to do for 1/3 the price because to them even thats a crapload of money in Mexico. So they save this money, and move back to Mexico, living like kings. Or they just have like 5 different families living in one house. Most of these people living in these homes, are forced to live there by the people that brought them here as a "stay in" fee. If they do not cooperate, they usually end up dead.
All the while the king lord of the home doesnt have to pay jack because everyone else is paying for him. In other words, illegals are using other illegals as slaves. We are against slavery here in the US btw.
Then when they are no longer any use to them, bullet hole to the head, then OUR local forces have to deal with it, straining more of the public funds over people who shouldnt be here in the first place.


One more thing- Yes, America is to blame for a lot of this, and thats why we are trying to fix the problem. Although, nothing is happening because our inept government continues to defy the wishes of the people and all logical sanity. They are doing this in order to secure VOTES. They WANT amnesty. They want the power, so they will do whatever they can to get that power, and all the while all of those who defend them are just as guilty of partisan fraud by continuing to allow their buddies to let them do the things that they are doing and not holding them accountable for the things they are NOT doing.

This isnt about "lazi-Americans". THis is about enforcing laws and using people who dont belong here as a means to continue their powerhold over Americans. The government wants to talk about National security, and yet they are intruding in our everyday lives to make sure that WE THE PEOPLE are not terrorists, yet they continue to ignore the real problem just south of their
comfortable sitting stations.
EFF THAT.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Sorry about not getting back to you. Just got done watching a vid with Max Kaiser going over the unstoppable economic meltdown coming.

As for NOT knowing about 110 temps and the economics of slave labor and the criminal invasion problem. Sorry, I know EXACTLY EVERYTHING about it. Came from a desert area SWAMPED with criminal invaders. Ran a lot of them, and turned them in as often as I could.

Since you answered my questions on the government socialist system. So, have you noticed ANY improvement to the system since you began. Or has it gotten worse? That is a rhetorical question, I already know the answer. So, what is the disease called when one continues to do the same actions and behaviors and causes harm? Is that just basically insanity, self nihilism or maybe just socialism? People, businesses, everything has to be allowed to fail. If they do not, they continue the same harmful actions. Kind of removing the negative reinforcement component. How did I do on the behavioral modification paragraph here?


Let me see, for the past 30 years we have had an influx of over 30 million legal aliens. In the same time frame we, at my best estimates, have had an influx of over 30 million CRIMINAL INVADERS.

You can spout all the rhetoric you want on the SUPPOSED help that maxing out the workforce numbers does to prices, but the THING you seem NOT to understand, is that those people have caused the STAGNATION of wages. Which in turn is the ULTIMATE reason why we have gone from a savings based country, to a DEBT based country.

Sorry, have dabbled in college in business admin and macroeconomics, among other things.

Keeping PRICES DOWN does NOT help. See what happened during the GD. Dang, the government slaughtered millions of hogs to attempt to get prices to rise. They destroyed 1000's of farms to get the prices of other food to rise. This is called stagflation. As bad as hyperinflation.

The WHOLE problem has been the government institution of SOCIALIST institutions like the one you work in, that has caused ALL of this. Safety nets only breed complacency, not savings and hard work. Period.

What do you think the solution the government is going to ask of everyone? Do you think it will be that everyone is just going to have to fend for themselves or do you think they are going to say, "We are the government and we are here to help you, you just have to give us control of everything and all will be fine?"

I say the latter, and those that HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HISTORY will say BAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Those that know history will not.

Which one are you?



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:52 PM
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We find illegals abandon cloths and trash when we go for walks.
We just think something needs to be done for their own Safety.
I don't want to go out in front of house see the vultures and find a dead
Illegal out there.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 08:14 PM
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I paid my part into it as well...I worked as a Project Manager for Applied Materials for over 2 years only to have my branch laid off and sent to Singapore...I didn't sit around and wait for unemployment to kick in, I got another full time job and worked a second job part time while "snailing" through school and raising my son. I refuse to take government assistance and never have. I bust my ass for the things I have had and have to this day and it infurates me to see others take advantage of it but they do so readily. I don't enjoy watching the road America has chosen to drive down but the majority of Americans are content being passangers and sticking around for the ride. Sorry, if my view points offend or upset anyone, it's just after the year I've been working in this field I've found that American's are lazy and are content on letting things be ran the way they have been.

I myself dabbled in Economics and Finite mathmatics in school and have a decent insight on business. I do understand the current standings of America and I'd like to say imho, we are already on our way to another GD. Unfortunately, our options of avoiding the situation are nonexistent at this time. The best thing we have to hope for is reform. But again, the government is more consumed with focusing on matters such as blue collar crime while barely devoting barely anytime to white collar. And it's not self defeating personality disorder it's imho called stupidty. Plain and simple stupidity. They are to blind and unaware to what is going on around them and oh so willing to pass the buck...The media will fuel them like coals within the engine of a train. The track has been set and they are all to happy to move toward their destruction. American's want someone to blame...right now this is the flavor of the month. They don't want to accept the fact that they've helped things get out of hand like they have. They continued to spend frivilously. They went out and bought the biggest homes they could afford. Cars that were above their means. Splurged on credit and now that they can't afford it they cry about it. They whine and say the government should help me pay my house...the bank shouldn't have qualified me for such a payment. I say no...you should've had enough common sense to see that your monthly income was under half of your new house payment. My father taught me at a very young age, you live within your means and save for that "rainey day". I moved out at 16 and have been on my own ever since...with zero help. People dug the graves in which they now must lie. I say let them rot. I own my land in heber. I do hydroponic gardening and I know how to trap and hunt. Should it crumble...I've got a place to retreat to.

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