Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by soficrow
WHY are TPTB pushing the idea that the planet is overpopulated and promoting Eugenics Policies
TPTB are not pushing Eugenic policies, I believe the opposite is true. After WW2, eugenics was connected with Hitler and widely condemned, but before
WW2 eugenics was quite mainstream, even in the US. Today, when you say that you support population control and eugenics, people assume you are nazi or
something and automaticaly see you in a bad light, even if you propose peaceful means.
FYI - The last Eugenics Policies on the books in the USA were not removed until the '70's - quite some time after WWII.
This only proves my point that eugenics was widely condemned after WW2 and is fringe science today.
You are right that the word
"eugenics" fell into disfavor when people learned that Hitler used US laws and Holmes' Supreme Court Judgment
almost verbatim to craft legislation for Nazi Eugenics Laws and the concentration camps.
But the main ideas
underlying eugenics never went away - that is, that the human species can be "improved" by educated scientific and social
"interventions." Eugenics is NOT "fringe science" today - far from it.
Following WWII, eugenics' apologists re-focused on the differences between "positive" and "negative" eugenics policies, but remained committed to
the idea that the human gene pool could -and should- be manipulated. …In the interim, an old word
was popularized to distinguish between "positive-social eugenics" policies
and "positive scientific eugenic/genetic" interventions.
There is no doubt that word definitions change to reflect shifting corporate-economic/political-government agendas. So let's look at how
definition may have changed and evolved over the half-century following WWII.
You will note: Eugenics
remains consistently defined as a "science" from the early 1900's to the present in most college, academic,
technical, scientific and medical dictionaries. "Family" and other dictionaries compiled for the mass-public tend to favor the euphemism "a study"
- which implies 'serious scholarship' cum "scientific study" [a more gentle idea-marketing technique].
And don't forget: The "educated" people using academic/scientific dictionaries, and learning from books and teachers supporting these views, are
today's geneticists, doctors, social scientists and policy-makers.
1913 - Webster, Original definition
The science of improving stock, whether human or animal. --F. Galton.
1946 - Funk and Wagnall's
* The science and art of improving human breeds by so applying the ascertained principles of genetics and inheritance, as to secure a desirable
combination of pysical characteristics and mental traits in the offspring of suitably mated parents.
1967 - Thorndile Barnhart Handy Dictionary - the most modern and scientific dictionary in print today.
* Science of improving the human race.
1960 - Columbia-Viking Desk Encyclopedia
* Study of methods to improve the human race physically and mentally through control of mating and heredity by society. It is directed
toward discouraging propagation by unfit and encouraging it in the fit. Some states have laws relating to sterilization of mental defectives, but
many problems are involved in carrying out such laws. Future problems of eugenics have been considered in novels of social criticism, e.g., Brave
New World (1932) by Aldous Huxley and Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949) by George Orwell. Probably the greatest immediate hope lies in education
and in bettering the environment.
[NOTE: 1968 unchanged.]
1971 - The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
* The study of hereditary improvement, especially of human improvement by genetic control.
1972 - New American Webster Handy College Dictionary
* The science of improving the human race through the regulation of parenthood.
1979 - Canadian Senior Dictionary (Gage)
* The science of improving the human race by a careful selection of parents in order to develop healthier and more intelligent children. 2. the
science of improving offspring.
1983 - Concise Columbia Encyclopedia
* Study of methods to improve inherited human characteristics. It is directed cheifly at discouraging propagation among the unfit and
encouraging it in the fit, although there are many difficulties in defining which traits are the most desirable.
1984 - Webster's New World Dictionary, Paperback Edition
The movement devoted to improving the human species by controlling heredity.
1988 - Webster's Ninth Collegiate Dictionary
A science that deals with the improvement (as by control of human mating) of hereditary qualities of a race or breed.
Also note: Eugenic - relating to or fitted for the production of good offspring
1997 - Webster's Universal College Dictionary
A science concerned with improving a breed or species, esp. the human species, by such means as influencing or encouraging reproduction by
persons presumed to have desirable genetic traits.
COMPARE - current online definitions, vetted for mass consumption.
* a science that deals with the improvement (as by control of human mating) of
hereditary qualities of a race or breed
* The study of hereditary improvement of the human race by controlled
COMPARE - online Science and Medical dictionaries
Computing: Free Online Dictionary
* study of human genetics and of methods to improve the inherited characteristics, physical and mental, of the human race. Efforts to improve
the human race through bettering housing facilities and other environmental conditions are known as euthenics.
Sir Francis Galton, who introduced the term eugenics, is usually regarded as the founder of the modern science of eugenics …
In the United States in recent years, interest in eugenics has centered around genetic screening. It is known, for example, that hemophilia,
albinism, and certain structural abnormalities are inheritable. Family gene maps, called pedigrees, can help families with serious diseases avoid
having children with the same diseases through genetic counseling, and, increasingly, prospective parents can be tested directly for the presence of
undesired genes. If conception has occurred, tests such as amniocentesis and chorionic villus sampling can be used to detect certain genetic defects
in the fetus. Embryo biopsy, or preimplantation diagnosis, can be used in conjunction with in vitro fertilization prior to pregnancy to test embryos
for a number of genetic defects; only those found free of defects are implanted and allowed to develop.
* The scientific study of artificial selection towards a particular set of desired characteristics.
www.pbs.org...]Evolution Glossary, PBS
* The science or practice of altering a population, especially of humans, by controlled breeding for desirable inherited characteristics. The
term was coined in 1883 by Francis Galton, who was an advocate of "improving" the human race by modifying the fertility of different categories of
people. Eugenics fell into disfavour after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.
Human Genome Project Information - Genomic Science Program - DOE
* The study of improving a species by artificial selection; usually refers to the selective breeding of humans.
* the study and control of procreation as a means of improving hereditary characteristics of future generations. The concept has sometimes been
used in a pseudoscientific way as an excuse for unethical, racist, or even genocidal practices such as involuntary sterilization or certain other
practices in Nazi Germany and elsewhere.
negative eugenics that concerned with prevention of reproduction by individuals considered to have inferior or undesirable traits.
positive eugenics that concerned with promotion of optimal mating and reproduction by individuals considered to have desirable or superior
* Literally, meaning normal genes [FALSE, see note below], eugenics aims to improve the genetic constitution of the human species by selective
breeding. The use of Albert Einstein's sperm to conceive a child (by artificial insemination) would represent an attempt at positive eugenics. The
Nazis notoriously engaged in negative eugenics by genocide.
The word "eugenics" was coined by Sir Francis Galton (1822-1911) to denote scientific endeavors to increase the proportion of persons with
better than average genetic endowment through selective mating of marriage partners.
The practice of eugenics was first legally mandated in the United States in the state of Indiana, resulting in the forcible sterilization,
incarceration, and occasionally euthanasia of the mentally or physically handicapped, the mentally ill, and ethnic minorities (particularly people of
mixed racial heritage), and the adopting out of their children to non-disabled, Caucasian parents. Similar programs spread widely in the early part of
the twentieth century, and still exist in some parts of the world. It is important to note that no experiment in eugenics has ever been shown to
result in measurable improvements in human health. In fact, in the best known attempt at positive eugenics, the Nazi "Lebensborn" program, there was
a higher-than- normal level of birth defects among the resulting offspring. [Rationale for Genetic Engineering as opposed to unsuccessful breeding
* the study of the methods that can improve the inherited qualities of a species.
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL
* the study of hereditary improvement of the human race by controlled selective breeding.
The Difference Computing Dictionary
* Since World War II, the term has fallen out of favor, but the concepts underlying eugenics continue to find proponents.
literally means "well-born" [Greek: eu- well; genos - born.]
The take home message?
Natural breeding programs don't work, but the human species can
be "improved" by marketing abortion to the lower classes - and breeding
assistance / genetic engineering to the upper classes.
How does this play out in practice? For example:
3. Genetic engineering seems to make positive eugenics possible, at long last. But it is sobering to look at the cutting edge of reproductive
technology in different communities. For the rich, the cutting edge is in vitro fertilization, artificial or assisted insemination, genetic
counseling, and perhaps genetic engineering and cloning on the horizon. But for the poor, the cutting edge of reproductive technology is new birth
control technology, like Norplant implants or Depo-Provera injections.
Mary Lyman Jackson, president of Exodus Youth Services, Inc., a street ministry serving runaways and latchkey kids on the streets on Washington,
talked about genetic engineering and cloning. In testimony before the National Bioethics Advisory Commission (May 2, 1997), she said:
I live in Gaithersburg, Maryland, in a nice suburban community, but spend a lot of time on the streets in Washington. I am very conscious of the way
the differences between these two communities are developing, and it worries me.
I hear people talking about life in the suburbs in ways that are very different than from life in the streets. And it is the differences that concern
I do not know of anyone in the suburbs who has birth control pushed on them, but my girls in the inner-city do. They tell me a different story. And I
do not know of anyone in the city who expects to get any benefit from genetic engineering. ...
A researcher can get lost in charts and graphs and test tubes and petri dishes and might forget that human life is very precious. These kids get
treated as specimens and research objects enough that they have a different attitude towards all this science.
These children know that scientists can treat people like things. They know it, because they have seen how much work goes into persuading them to get
on birth control or have an abortion.
Mrs. Jackson saw clearly that genetic engineering has revived the central eugenics agenda: "more from the fit, less from the unfit."
SOURCE: "Modern Genetics Is Eugenics" - George Annas, M.D., bioethics professor at Boston University, speaking at the U.S. Holocaust Museum in
I've been getting an error code (503), but here are the links: Eugenics-watch;
Modern Genetics Is Eugenics.
..……..I have much, much more. Shall I continue?
Lots of ooops, format probs...
[edit on 21-8-2010 by soficrow]