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Originally posted by plube
...by airing our differences we can actually,possibly,mybe, achieve peace.
The Terms and Conditions have no weight. I know of one individual who's been banned here more than 8 or 9 times and he keeps coming back under a new user name. He doesn't even try to hide his identity. When I brought it up to a Super Mod, I was told they knew it was him, but had to wait until he put his foot in it again before they could ban his current incarnation.
Originally posted by Helig
How would purging those who can't be at least passably polite send a bad message to others? Shouldn't the members understand that mods have the power to remove them for actions unbecoming of members? Isn't enforcement of the Terms and Conditions the job of the staff rather than members?
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I'm not sure I understand what "acting on those beliefs" mean on a message board? Using racial derrogatory terms?
You protect racist hate speech (as long as it is respectful), but will ban a member who gets ANGRY over being looked down upon as a human being because of their skin color.
And ATS members of that group...YOU BETTER NOT GET ANGRY AT IT OR YOU WILL BE PUNISHED.
Originally posted by Snarf
Originally posted by Retseh
Your main problem is weak enforcement, I have seen overt racism dealt with via nothing more than a "warning".
You need to ban a few of the more notable perpetrators and you will see instances of abuse disappear overnight.
couldn't agree more.
Civility & Decorum, in my opinion, are pipe dreams when you deal with topics like religion, politics, abortion, etc.
So the balance, it seems, becomes whether or not to enforce a topic like "religion" the same way you would enforce a topic like "UFOs" or "ancient mysteries"
If you choose to enforce as vigorously, you'll loose some variety in rhetoric and ban more people
if you choose to enforce less vigorously, you'll get more complaints about people being mean.
IMO, politics, in its nature, is "mean" and people shouldn't partake unless they can par-tay.
edit for clarity - any name calling like "hey fag" or "you are gay" or anything like that simply should not be tolerated, and, IMO, should be met with a temporary ban every time.
Calling someone closed minded, sheeple, etc, shouldn't be against rules...after all, saying someone is "ignorant" while acceptable by ToC, just simply doesn't cover it with some people.
Ignorant means the person just doesn't understand the topic. But there are lots of people on this site that DO understand the topic, but still choose to ignore the urge for a civil tone, and go against the grain anyways.
I don't see that as having thin skin, i see it as fostering an intelligent environment to carry out civil conversation.
ARTIST: Zager and Evans
TITLE: In the Year 2525 Lyrics and Chords
In the year 2525 If man is still alive If woman can survive they may find
/ Em / D / C B7 /
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
In the year 4545
Ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you
In the year 5555
Your arms hanging limp at your sides
Your legs got nothing to do
Some machine's doing that for you
In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube, whoa-oh
In the year 7510
If God's a-comin' He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Guess it's time for the judgment day
In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or tear it down and start again, whoa-oh
In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old
Earth can give And he ain't put back nothin', whoa-oh
Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew
Now man's reign is through
But through eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away
Maybe it's only yesterday
In the year 2525
If man is still alive If woman can survive, they may find In the year 3535 [fade]
Originally posted by masterp
KICK THE IMMIGRANTS OUT
That's the only solution. Don't wait for the government. Do it yourself. Politicians are traitors. We don't want to live with people that destroy our culture.