"What's with the anger on ATS?"

Im not sure whether anyone has mentioned this yet, and i dont really have time to find the links,
But I do recall a while back, I came across something which suggested the cycles of the moon this year would effect people in a detrimental way.

not sure if anyone else has come across this, I'll post back if I find anything, But Feel free look for it if you have the time,

Regards.

Myself, i haven't come across any hostile attacks or preemptive attacks, then again there are those who choose to avoid me like the plague.

How to divide and conquer:

Keep a 2 party system in a country and you've made a good start toward polarizing the populace.

Encourage people to play out this polarisation on a myriad different topics, spouting talking points, insults and lies on both sides in an endless exercise in point-scoring, treating every divisive situation as another baseball game.

Even the realization by about half America that there was funny business going on with 9/11 is welcomed by TPTB, as yet another force fragmenting society.

Some folk find safety in trust and compliance, some find safety in weapons and trust their ability to defend their own families. However one man alone only wins in the movies. The power of people is in togetherness, and we are letting TPTB rob us of that.


There will always be people who work at spreading hatred and use vicious insults to vent their miserable anger, to silence the opposition, or to push a message for those financing their posts. But as long as most of us refrain from responding in kind, and work at understanding each other's point of view, the forum will still be worth supporting.

It is frustrating. I've been attacked and insulted many times in the last few weeks. It wasn't for being rude to another poster it was for sharing thoughts that I had that few would agree with in this day and age. I mean this is an alternative discussion website, we should show kindness and understanding toward each other even if we don't agree on everything. The only way to rise above this is to...well.....rise above this. When confronted with hostility don't return it. Show them a better way through our own actions. When someone attacks another don't reward them with stars and or flags even if you agree with their general viewpoint.

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The mentality of..... "it's people like you"

The stratification of society into cliques, groups, etc. that think they have all the answers and those with different viewpoints,
fall under the "people like you" classification.

Righteous anger run amok. Critical thinking thrown out the window in favor of dogma, arrogance and selfrighteousness.

I wish I had a nickle for everytime that I have been deemed "people like you" I could buy a condo on the beach and spend my time in less angry pursuits than ATS.

That's why all the anger on ATS!

Thanks for this thread, I read it for the first time last night, coincidentally just after coming off a thread in which an exchange unfortunately seemed to be going a bit...sour?...no, intense. This certainly helped me to take a step back.

Having reflected on your question a little, a few things came to mind.

They say that when you're in a pub, or socialising, you should never discuss religion, politics or money unless you're ready for things to potentially get very awkward, very quickly.

What originally drew me to ATS was the opportunity to immerse myself in a wealth of often highly informed, intelligently debated and original information and discussions about topics that were, for the most part, focusing at arms length from those famous social taboos. Threads focused on stuff like geology, science, arts, military tech'/r&d, military projects, space projects, some of the more scientific/investigative ufo threads...

I think that, like the saying indicates, if you move into threads that are primarily focused on heavily loaded and very contemporary religious, political and economic issues, particularly highly charged current affairs that are impacting the real lives of so many in our world so tragically and at such a great cost now, and with a global audience, maybe it's inevitable that there will be the odd disturbance within the 'room'?

By the way, I don't think you'll find this sense of a growing expression of anger is unique to ATS? it seems to be evident all over the web in discussion forums on current affairs, at least that's what I'm seeing.

Thanks anyway, I'll do my best...

I noticed this: That when anger seems to be close to the surface, it is also true with my cousins which are spread across the US. We have had 4 way phone conversations about it. No good reason for the anger, it's just there. And seems to blanket this country at the same time. And also leaves at the same time.
Could be Grandmother Moon, the media, a lot of other good suggestions that have been thrown into the mix.
What feels right for me is EMFs.
HARPA DARPA DOO!!!

The problem is maybe because it seems MANY people believe ATS is COUNTER INTEL PRO, still it seems some of them say so just because they have been banned from this forum.
Or else it is maybe just because people try to express themselves but there are so many replies for every new subjects that they feel nobody listen to them so they get angry

the wolves are eating the sheep, second the internet connects people electronically whether you like it or not, or whether you believe it or not. the wisdom of connecting to hundreds of millions of people should be questioned, because no one knows who or what u are connecting to. for all we know the internet could be alien technology being used without knowing the full consequences of the tech. or how it really functions. i for one don't want my mind connected with a psychopath, and it appears from what i have perceived the internet and computers have that ability. facebook and twitter are prime examples of this. we say we don't want a one world government, or a one world culture but people don't realize that borders and countries are artificial. the internet is managing to turn everyone's mind into an empty mush that can be filled with unwanted and dangerous influences, for lack of a better explanation. it's weird sh-t and i don't want to believe it but sometimes you're faced with things, that u can't brush off because of experience and that shows the true scope and face of the evil that we are up against everyday. it's diabolical. it is an evil that can't be imagined. it's like trying to explain what an orange tastes like to someone who has never tasted one before. but as soon as that person tastes the orange all the descriptions of that orange will pale next to the actual sensations. the more and more you use the internet the more your personality will change until u come to the point that irreparable damage has occurred.

Most of the time it's just people assuming everyone else has an agenda or something all the time.

I been accused of various stuff since I been here. I think people just like to think there is an 'us and them' instead of it just being 'we the confused'.

Some interesting points here. I agree that lots of persons get the idea that everyone is a disinfo agent or something.

Maybe it's oversimplifying, but I think people are fed up with being oppressed, wrung dry, & screwed over; whether it is class warfare, being exploited by employers, the government, corporations, banks, whatever. It only looks like it will get worse & it's real close to critical mass now. Many people are apparently in despair, too. It seems like someone is killing their loved ones, then themselves all the time now. Obviously, they think they are better off dead. It's scary. (Anger is a survival mechanism. Whether it's good or bad I guess depends on how you look at it & how much self control a person has.)

Randomname, don't be so sure. Sheep, especially, can be very volatile and extremely dangerous (my great aunt & uncle raised Merino sheep, so I'm speaking literally. The same is true metaphorically). Any livestock can trample you do to death when they're spooked badly enough. The problem seems to be that the Border Collies have morphed into wolves.

curioustype said:

"By the way, I don't think you'll find this sense of a growing expression of anger is unique to ATS? it seems to be evident all over the web in discussion forums on current affairs, at least that's what I'm seeing."

This is my experience also.

I see problems with the political a religious side. That being said, people tend to hate here. You are ridiculed for what you believe in. Christ, aliens, end of the world. ATS has been now become the nut-case-board. People have no tolerance and we decide to hate on those who love what they believe in Jesus, buddah, Mohammed, aliens, conspiricy stuff. You cannot have an open mind on a board that shuts you down right after you speak what you think, feel, etc etc. believe.

faith not just in religion, but faith in the truth of all conspiracies

I am somewhat disappointed in the actions taken by a moderator. Here is a post about me.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You say stupid stuff and then deflect because your ignorance is legendary, not to mention you're so pathetic you use ATS to promote your own website...

A member named littlebunny has made a number of nasty posts. Here he calls me pathetic. I have complained twice about this post. The moderator has chosen to let this stand.

Allowing this post to remain simply supports littlebunny's attitude to use reprehensible language in their posts.

A while back I was sanctioned for 1000 points because someone called me a nasty name as littlebunny did here. In my response to the post I asked for the person not to call me names because calling names is a loser's game. The original post stood and I was sanctioned 1000 points for calling the person a loser. I did not call them a loser although that appears to be the interpretation of the moderator. Fine. It's over and done with. What I can't understand is why posts where blatant name calling is done are allowed to remain in the forum.

I'll tell you what's with the anger on ATS. Last night I got baited with a post from a member who implied that all LGBT people have corrupted defective DNA. I turned his words against him, and a mod stepped in, REMOVED MY COMMENT, and rewarded the bigot for his NAZI talk and threatened to ban me and docked me with so many negative ATS points that it will be YEARS before my account recovers, if it ever recovers. Then the offending poster came on and admits he lied in his comment, (basically rubbing my nose in the fact that I was baited) and then the member who reported me, admits that he was going to report my comments with EXTREME PREJUDICE! I said I had evidence, they laid a trap for me, and shot me down in flames.

All of this because I said I was going to upload a reverse speech clip that will blow the lid WIDE OPEN in the discussion here www.abovetopsecret.com... and prove there is going to be a terrorist attack.

Obviously, the gatekeepers here are scared of me and want me banned ASAP so as to prevent me from posting my evidence. I seriously doubt they will do the right thing and finish me off. SLAVE SCUM NEVER FOLLOW THROUGH. THEY PREFER TO GET OTHERS TO DO THE DIRTY WORK FOR THEM IT'S CLEANER THAT WAY.

HYPOCRISY! I've reported all those who attacked me, and the MODS PROTECT THEM AND PUNISH ME! AGAIN BECAUSE MY EVIDENCE MUST NOT COME TO LIGHT. HOPEFULLY I WILL HAVE MY AUDIO VIDEO EVIDENCE FINISHED IN A FORMAT AND UPLOADED BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND, THAT"S HOW MUCH TIME 'THEY' HAVE TO NUKE MY ACCOUNT.

I've dropped the gauntlet. That's how much time you ILLUMINIST SLAVE SCUM HAVE TO STOP ME

I AM AN INFO WARRIOR AND I WILL DESTROY ALL IGNORANCE AND DENIAL AND EXPOSE THE GATEKEEPERS AND THE SLAVE SCUM FOR THE LIARS THEY ARE!

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
I also think the mainstream media is poisoning the well, sometimes to a critical level.

Spoon-fed Anger

Every day, the information disguised as news that's put forth by media outlets will attempt to convince us to be angry. No matter the issue, there will be exaggerated spin that ranges from irritation to spit-spewing fury targeted to one side or the other of the ideological spectrum(s). This only serves to feed the targeted viewer/readership with artificial talking points for which we should feel anger, and pad the ratings as we continue to return to see what else should stoke our fires.

Such a vicious cycle of fabricated news-as-entertainment has no place for people who are actually concerned about the reality of today's troubling issues, and especially for those who want to discuss sensible solutions.

Don't Play Their Game

We all must realize that the motivations behind contemporary politics and the vast matrix of mainstream media is not to inform, but to inflame.

We lost, didn't we? Did you think (back ten years ago) that the MSM could keep it up for so long that propaganda would be normalized by the (free? ha ha) corporate media?

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Since this old thread came back up, and as it is still so amazingly relevant I'll post here again.

Where you been man?

This website sure has needed more posts from you and Springer. Y'all are really smart and interesting fellows and we really could benefit from you guys experience and wisdom.

Thanks again man!

Anger is everywhere, and hearing/seeing angry people, at least for me, makes me angry, a kind of osmosis.

I noticed anger at the beginning of the pandemic, and now we have the political anger as well. Both have divided us, I get angry (for example) when folks make a huge deal out of not wearing a mask or deny that Covid is real.

When I see someone with the opposite political view than myself, my first thought is "What's wrong with you, wtf are you thinking"? And likely they think the same about me.

I just hope things improve after the election, and when we get a Covid vaccine. For me, lessening my time on social media helps, because I don't see the stuff that makes me mad