reply to post by neformore
Thank you writing this up, Nef. I did touch on some of my thoughts on the show, but didn't fully cover them to keep the format moving.
And I do agree with IRM that skepticism isn't the whole problem. But I would like to restate that in the context of text, things often go missing.
The old "pics or it didn't happen" is a shortcut to writing and has actually done more harm than good in my opinion. Sure it is a shortcut, but
often newer members have the wind pulled from their sails by such a statement.
Yes many things become old hat to those that have spent years looking. And I feel that at the heart of every "labeled skeptic" (to avoid naming
) there is a person that really does want to believe. It is just they want to see undeniable and unarguable proof.
I have to say, despite having a nice digital camera in the van, I may not stop to grab it in the event I saw a landing of a UFO in the parking lot and
aliens walking around. I would be far more interested in making contact than snapping pictures and gaining evidence.
Is that human nature or just me being me? Hard to say. As far as Ufology goes, everyone started somewhere. I, like many my age, read the old Time-Life
series of books. No, they are not the best written, but they give a good foundation and overview and cover other subjects as well. Honestly, I find
them perfect for a pre-teen to younger teenager to open up to topics of thought beyond the norm of girls and cars at a time when you are not likely to
But I see YouTube videos from both sides. Those that want their 15 minutes of fame so bad that they are more than willing to fake it and I see them as
education to both spotting fakes and opening new people to the subject.
Where I see ATS in this, is that ATS should be a place to ask questions, share information, receive feedback and not be targeted with ridicule or
become upset by the words (including the shorthand posts of "Seen it. Do a Search and save us all some time.") How is that helpful or beneficial,
especially to someone new to the subject?
But let's look at a classic case for a second. Betty and Barney Hill. There are no photos nor videos of the event. Just poorly drawn pictures and
testimony from hypnosis. If that happened today without any previous abductions, how many would be screaming for either a move to Hoax or The Gray
Area? At the time, it was unprecedented. Today, it is at the least an acknowledge case if not a respected one.
I hope I made a point that was understood there. Shooting the messenger too quickly just means we can't get more of the message. And that goes for
debunkers and believer alike. Because if you blow off the one that says they heard it before or walk away too quickly, then maybe you can't explain
it in more detail. Maybe they heard one similar that they had some doubts but you similar experience present might collaborate and fill in some
questionable gaps from the one they heard before.
I don't, it is late and maybe I am not making much sense here.