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Originally posted by Phage
Maybe the warming on Mars is caused by Mars not by the Sun.
Here we present predictions from a Mars general circulation model, indicating that the observed interannual albedo alterations strongly influence the martian environment. Results indicate enhanced wind stress in recently darkened areas and decreased wind stress in brightened areas, producing a positive feedback system in which the albedo changes strengthen the winds that generate the changes.
Our results suggest that documented albedo changes affect recent climate change and large-scale weather patterns on Mars, and thus albedo variations are a necessary component of future atmospheric and climate studies.
Maybe the warming on Pluto is simply a change in the very long seasons which Pluto experiences.
“The most likely explanation is thermal lag,” says MIT astrophysicist James Elliot, one of the team leaders. “On Earth, the days are longest in the northern hemisphere near the end of June, but the hottest month is July. Similarly, Pluto may not reach maximum surface temperature until a decade or so from now.”
The climate on Jupiter is very different from the climate of Earth, it's probably not very reasonable to think that the changes in both have the same cause. Jupiter after all, produces most of its heat internally.
We report differences in aspect ratios, areas and peak velocities of the GRS and the Oval(s) from 1979, 2000, and 2006. Some changes are large, and we discuss their implications for Jovian climate. We compare the areas of the clouds associated with the vortices with the areas enclosed by their outermost closed streamlines, and with the areas of the vortices’ potential vorticity anomalies. Indicators of climate change, such as changes in the mean zonal flow, the vertical stratification and vorticity gradients across the jet stream, are discussed.
Triton, like Pluto, has a very long seasonal cycle. It's turning summer.
The moon is approaching an extreme southern summer, a season that occurs every few hundred years. During this special time, the moon's southern hemisphere receives more direct sunlight. The equivalent on Earth would be having the sun directly overhead at noon north of Lake Superior during a northern summer.
Total solar irradience has changed very little since we have been able to measure it. While that change may contribute to warming, there are other factors closer to home (on Earth and other planets) which have much greater effects.
Although the inferred increase of solar irradiance in 24 years, about 0.1 percent, is not enough to cause notable climate change, the trend would be important if maintained for a century or more. Satellite observations of total solar irradiance have obtained a long enough record (over 24 years) to begin looking for this effect.
Greenhouse gases are gases in an atmosphere that absorb and emit radiation within the thermal infrared range. [HEAT]
Greenhouse gases greatly affect the temperature of the Earth; without them, Earth's surface would be on average about 33 °C (59 °F) colder than at present.
Since the beginning of the Industrial revolution, the burning of fossil fuels has substantially increased the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Preindustrial Era - Carbon dioxide was 280 ppm
Current Level - Carbon dioxide is now around 390 ppm
Oil Companies Support Global Warming Alarmists, Not Skeptics
The sun controls things, and anyway, there are no SUVs on MARS...
Just look at how easy life was in the medieval warming period
or during the roman warming period
some of the most productive time periods man has ever had.
Originally posted by Whyhi
reply to post by Danbones
This is just complete nonsense. Why would big oil support something that basically puts them out of business?
It's like saying the oil spill was an intentional act to support the green movement, because they had SO much to gain... ( PS: if that is an actual conspiracy around here, just shoot me now )
Henrik Svensgard's work suggests that sun spot activity's indirect effect on cloud formation is the primary driver of earth teperature (climate).
So much so that it has prompted CERN to embark on research into the physics of cloud formation and the role of cosmic rays.
The clue that they may on the right track, as opposed to CO2 demonisation, is that Piers Corbin's (sun spot activity based) weather forecasts, predicted the recent and current cold spell and the wet summer last year. Our Met Office with their models did not.
Interesting to note the vested interests of the academics above too...
Originally posted by malcr
Quite jaw dropping how misinformation perpetuates. But then again I suppose it gives the skeptics a nice warm fuzzy feeling to keep believing in BS. When I read 2350 I nearly choked , the actual number was ..... (fill in the blanks its bleedin obvious). The spelling mistake of 2035 was repeated by the IPCC however, unlike skeptics, they have since come clean and admitted it was a SPELLING mistake.
How many skeptics have admitted to misrepresenting data? NOT FREAKIN ONE!!! Shame on you all.
The errors are in a 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a U.N.-affiliated body. All the mistakes appear in a subsection that suggests glaciers in the Himalayas could melt away by the year 2035 — hundreds of years earlier than the data actually indicates. The year 2350 apparently was transposed as 2035.
Originally posted by MMPI2
I hope that consumers of this kind of information are not surprised. The "global warming/climate change" fallacy is one of the biggest psychological operations ever conducted. It was conducted in order to capitalize on peoples' desire to "clean up the world" and legitimately act in good faith in being stewards of the earth.
The climate change psyop was developed and conducted by some of the most ruthless, devious and evil people in human history in an effort to cheat folks out of their money and soverignty. It was and is a huge lie bankrolled by people like George Soros and Al Gore, who stand to make billions if the carbon offset trading scheme is ever legitimized by the U. S. Federal Government.
The global warming science is most certainly not settled, as Al Gore claimed a few years ago. It is, and always has been a fraud and a lie.
Originally posted by coolguy
what if it IS a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
You actually think the elites are doing this to create a better world?...
[edit on 17-8-2010 by ElectricUniverse]
the best way to control the opposition is to be the opposition..
Ill say it nice and slow...
the carbon taxes benefit big oil by forcing the price of oil up by creating an artificial scarcity...now that peak oil has been thoroughly discredited by abiotic oil. and they won't have to pay these taxes YOU will...