A Interesting Day in a English Court, page 1
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reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 05:08 PM by XPLodER
reply to post by yigsstarhouse



all i will say is if people know the truth about courts and trials
ex link explains the real world of ucc law

very very insightful vid
www.tpuc.org...


reply posted on 16-8-2010 @ 03:27 AM by Mike_A
No, this is nonsense. There is no "hidden truth" except to those who can't be bothered to read a book about law! Have any of you who are championing this video actually done that yourself?

Just think about it for a minute without wishing it to be true. Law doesn’t work if its secret, what would be the point of having some complex admiralty law if you intend on having everyone believe in the system of statutes and legal precedence? In order to implement the secret legal system you would still have to have a public face that mirrored the secret exactly. Otherwise you would get this;

Judge – “You are charged with driving without a licence”
Me – “But I have a licence, here it is”
Judge – “Ah but admiralty law says you have to have it licked by the queen”
Me – “Admiralty law?”
Judge – “Oh no, rumbled!”

It makes no sense.

And if it was about curbing freedoms that exist under admiralty (or this bastardised version of common law) then it still makes no sense. If the government want everyone to have a driving licence in order to drive a car but admiralty law says I don’t need one why would they mess about trying to secretly implement some obscure system in an overly complex manner when they could just scrap the law that practically nobody has heard of? Just about everyone already thinks laws are created by parliament so why would “tptb” persist in using admiralty law when the publicly known legal system does what they want it to and the people already invest power into it?


The video itself shows nothing more than a wilfully ignorant moron wasting court time (and breaking the law by filming it) by trying to pass off a birth certificate as a real person and then declaring victory when everyone else has had enough; it sounds like a typical thread on ATS!

The liability order was still given so this “defence” certainly wasn’t successful. As for the time on the document, that refers to the time that the hearing was to start (10.00 though it was delayed for one and a half hours to 12.30); there’s no fraud.


reply posted on 16-8-2010 @ 10:38 AM by Whyhi
reply to post by Mike_A



The video itself shows nothing more than a willfully ignorant moron wasting court time (and breaking the law by filming it) by trying to pass off a birth certificate as a real person and then declaring victory when everyone else has had enough; it sounds like a typical thread on ATS!


This.


reply posted on 17-8-2010 @ 06:50 AM by Acidtastic
Originally posted by Whyhi
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post by Mike_A



The video itself shows nothing more than a willfully ignorant moron wasting court time (and breaking the law by filming it) by trying to pass off a birth certificate as a real person and then declaring victory when everyone else has had enough; it sounds like a typical thread on ATS!


This.
Even though I started the other thread on this video. I'd usually be inclined to agree to a point. But, that point ends with someone showing me another case where the courts just decided to go away and not do anything.

Does anyone have another case like this to compare it to? Who can "get away" with contempt of court, and filming in a court, without being sent to the klink for a small think about what they've done? I think the fact that the police didn't arrest anyone for contempt of court, speaks some volume about the legitimicy of this line of defence.



reply posted on 17-8-2010 @ 07:41 AM by Mike_A
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The defendant wasn’t present, the “person” that the shouty man kept referring to was actually the defendant’s birth certificate which these freemen mistakenly think represents a legal fiction that is the legal stand in for a natural person (it’s not). Since the defendant wasn’t present, or at least he didn’t make himself known to the court, then the hearing couldn’t proceed. Since the hearing couldn’t proceed and the defendant didn’t offer a defence then he was given the order.

These freemen think that the law only applies to companies and that the act of producing a birth certificate and having one’s name written in capitals confers company status on a natural person thus allowing them to be subject to the law. It’s, not a selective interpretation of common law, it’s an utterly made up fairy tale with a hefty dose of legalise.


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As above the court didn’t decide to just go away and do nothing, they abandoned the hearing because the defendant wasn’t present and they went ahead and issued the liability order.

Who can "get away" with contempt of court, and filming in a court, without being sent to the klink for a small think about what they've done?


Do we know that they weren’t? The video looked as though it was made with a concealed camera to me; in which case they may not even know hearing was filmed.

Even if they weren’t what would it prove other than the CPS didn’t think it was worth the time and money doing so.


reply posted on 17-8-2010 @ 08:47 AM by paraphi
reply to post by Mike_A



Well, thanks for the clarification Mike_A. My hunch that the guy was speaking giggerish is therefore upheld. I wonder when it becomes an offence for wasting the time of public servants and / or debilitating the running of the legal process through faffing about.

Regards


reply posted on 17-8-2010 @ 08:47 AM by paraphi
reply to post by Mike_A



Well, thanks for the clarification Mike_A. My hunch that the guy was speaking giggerish is therefore upheld. I wonder when it becomes an offence for wasting the time of public servants and / or debilitating the running of the legal process through faffing about.

Regards
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