The Anti-Muslim Threads Are Giving ATS a Bad Name, page 6


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reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 07:40 PM by ghostsoldier
reply to post by Stormdancer777


I agree about evolution, but the ignorant hate-rants here on ATS are pathetic, and have no place in the 21st century.

Alot of the problems in the Arab world stem back to poverty caused by Western Imperialism - and now trying to bark down a whole society from the top down into submission and cultural assimilation is pointless and arrogant.

The West has just as much to learn from the East as we have to Teach.

Hate breeds hate.

Why don't you move to Afghanistan and work as a social-worker or something.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 07:50 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by ghostsoldier




Why don't you move to Afghanistan and work as a social-worker or something.


You have me pegged, I wanted to do that when I was younger, but fate didn't allow.

Now I am to old, ghost,

But I do have women friends that are Islamic and we pray together,

Also if a debate on Islam degenerates into a hate fest, that is not appropriate, but if it brings understanding and insights, I think it should be discussed.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 07:51 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by ghostsoldier




Alot of the problems in the Arab world stem back to poverty caused by Western Imperialism - and now trying to bark down a whole society from the top down into submission and cultural assimilation is pointless and arrogant.


Then what hope is there?


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 07:52 PM by EspyderMan
reply to post by shamus78


I think any post that promotes hatred towards a religion, belief or way of life should be deleted. It does no good.
People mostly post stuff like that and are uneducated and its obvious when reading it, why a mod doesn't delete it is beyond me. Its distasteful.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 07:56 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by EspyderMan
reply to post by shamus78


I think any post that promotes hatred towards a religion, belief or way of life should be deleted. It does no good.
People mostly post stuff like that and are uneducated and its obvious when reading it, why a mod doesn't delete it is beyond me. Its distasteful.


I don't think it is promoting being educated on the subject if we sweep it under the carpet.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 07:59 PM by ghostsoldier
reply to post by Stormdancer777

ghostsoldier:
Alot of the problems in the Arab world stem back to poverty caused by Western Imperialism - and now trying to bark down a whole society from the top down into submission and cultural assimilation is pointless and arrogant.
Then what hope is there?


Are you serious? Can you see no other alternative modes of education?

Maybe there is no hope.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 08:02 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by ghostsoldier
reply to post by Stormdancer777

ghostsoldier:
Alot of the problems in the Arab world stem back to poverty caused by Western Imperialism - and now trying to bark down a whole society from the top down into submission and cultural assimilation is pointless and arrogant.
Then what hope is there?


Are you serious? Can you see no other alternative modes of education?

Maybe there is no hope.


I am asking you what I should do, how do you educate, when I cannot even bring up the subject on this forum.



reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 08:35 PM by Ex_MislTech
reply to post by Stormdancer777


You are very welcome Stormdancer.

That is why I thought a woman who has lived under Sharia law
can speak with more authority than the sycophants fawning
over Islam on this thread.

Wafa Sultan is incredibly brave to me.

Do not let the words of the ignorant diminish your belief
in doing and saying what you believe is right.

There are agents for Islam as much as there agents for
our government spreading disinfo.

But as I have said elsewhere, all religion has horrendous blood
on its hands and none of it gets a pass from me.

Even in modern day the pedophile priests should receive a
worse fate than the common citizen because they are suppose
to be an example not a subversive parasite.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 08:41 PM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by ghostsoldier
reply to post by Stormdancer777


I don't know much, but I do know that Sharia Law is different to Spiritual Islam - and any threads or comments who don't make the effort to differentiate the two in an intelligent way - doesn't deserve praise for your feminism.

Spousal abuse is a big problem for Caucasians aswell you know.

Western Cultural Imperialism is just as much of a threat to Muslim women as misguided traditions that have nothing to do with contemporary secularist Islam.

How about switching off Fox - and going and working in a womens shelter for a while.


Of course there are those who follow Islam who do not follow
Sharia Law, but there are MILLIONS who do follow Sharia Law

You try to use spousal abuse as an equivalent to STATE SPONSORED
ABUSE BY LAW.

You are holding an apple in one hand and orange in the other
and failing to make the distinction.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 08:56 PM by Ex_MislTech
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Why can't we just have an intelligent conversation on this forum without vilifying one another, and everyone pointing the finger at everyone else,

Why is this subject taboo?

I feel like I am in third grade.

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There are a few subjects that often head off into a foaming,
unthinking, knee jerk state of mind.

Politics, Religion, Abortion, and a few others.

At some point a voice of reason may whisper we will just have to
agree to disagree.

Again as I have stated I trust none of the religions as most of them
have been caught in major lies.

That may be just the issue of man being in charge of it, but then
it just makes the whole thing suspect by association.

I think there are good ppl of all religions, Islam included.

Gandhi mentioned that at his place of worship while growing up
they read from the Hindu writings and the Quran.

He could never make both sides happy so radical Hindu's killed him.

Some on here will not even admit Dhimmitude and Sharia exist.

They are that hopeless.

Even when a woman from the part of the world goes on Al jazzera
and argues with Islamic clerics over it risking her life they still
say she is a paid actor or some other tripe.

Stormdancer I must suggest keep in mind that some of the ppl are
likely Islamic and will not change their beliefs.

Some could be disinfo agents pushing their agenda just like
we have seen the government disinfo trolls on ATS.

Do not take it personal, when it gets you down listen to Wafa
and talk to those who are positive in spirit and not insulting you.

These petty insults on here are totally childish.

Don't expect them to change.

Real change sadly often only comes at the end of a gun.
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