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Originally posted by Acharya
All the charts and statistics have been linked in previous posts. Spend some time and read through the posts and you will find it.
Originally posted by faceoff85
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Geesh. No one ever answers my question about what they want to do with the Muslims. what their solution is. I wonder why...
I believe that is because there really is no humane way to solve the problems. The best thing to happen is if we could just all "get along" and be friends, respecting each others different points of views, even going as far to say we like the fact that we are all different. But thats like waiting to win the lotery... Not gonna happen..
Originally posted by faceoff85
Do you have a sugestion? one that doesn't involve forcefully relocating people?
When a person commits a crime he should be punished, for that to happen we'd need a lot more versions of our Geert Wilders.. But then again that would open up a whole new can of dogpoo
Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
Originally posted by faceoff85
reply to post by Adevoc Satanae
Well to show you the same respect I will answer, most likely NOT in a satisfactory fashion.
My answer was not satisfactory? I apologize. What did I miss?
I know they were muslim because they "looked" like muslims,
What does a Muslim look like?
acted like muslims
How so? How does one act like a Muslim? I am sure there are ways but I am curious what you saw.
and talked like muslims.
Again...how is that?
My aunt and uncle also said they were...
Want to hear a story my uncle told me once about a fish he caught? Who are your Aunt and Uncle exactly?
All in all I have NOT seen their version of the Qu'ran nor have I seen them enter a mosque.
So there is room for doubt.
I know they were celebrating the attack because they said they were.
How bold. What did they say? "Hey you! Look at us dance! We are celebrating the plane crash that just happened within the hour! Are you looking?" Seriously, how did they put it?
Also the fact that a small riot took place in that street was not because of that family baking cookies...
I love it when a story gets bigger and better each time I hear it. Riots now? Go on...
And again its not something I can irefutably prove... The circumstancial evidence was enough for me to dare make the claims I have made...
I did not expect you to prove it. I expected you to at least make it believable, at least a little.
Am I correct when I assume that you are a muslim?
No.
If you are, can you or can you not acknowledge that the muslim community (at least the ones you know) was feeling joy over the attacks, as opposed to grief?
I actually already answered that question.
Originally posted by cushycrux
Hmm...
Originally posted by Granite
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
So. Acharya. What do you propose be done with these Muslims we should fear? Simple question, reasked directly.
Immediatey arrest 100 with criminal records, put them on a rusty barge, tow barge to Saudi Arabia coast, get that Russian Admiral of Somali pirate ship fame...
Boom problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Well, overall, I have faith that America, who is used to large waves of immigration and all the growing pains that comes with that, and who has strong core values, laws, and principles will have far less of an issue dealing with the "Muslim threat" than some smaller, more homogeneous countries. I for one am sick of this speculation and all this post hoc reasoning. I'm out.
Originally posted by faceoff85
Hahahaha... My IQ is only between 100-107?
last time I checked it was 146
well... guess its just bad luck...
Originally posted by cushycrux
What is more dangerous for a WW3 - Palin or Osama? Shocking simple, right? All this Idoits here, can't get it!
Originally posted by manjiman
I think the title should be "Why the west should fear RADICAL muslims."
Originally posted by manjiman
I am a muslim (Ismaili muslim) myself and I don't go around raping, murdering, terrorizing etc. I grew up in Canada and this is my home. IMO, the OP is generalizing all muslims as being evil and this is wrong. I have plenty of caucasian, asian friends and they do not view me as a muslim, but as a human being. People should really peel the layers off of the onion and see what is underneath to get to the truth. I assure you not all muslims are out for cold blood and to destroy the "western infidels." My parents moved here from Africa during the reign of Iddi-Amin (sp) and they have assimilated into Canadian culture. They speak fluent english and are very social with their neighbours. We do follow the Quran (loosely), but it is translated by our spiritual leader (Aga Khan) into what it means today.
Originally posted by manjiman
The passages the OP provided are for war times and self defence. You can't just copy and paste Quran passages that were in english originally because the original is in Arabic. In Arabic there are many words that are the same but have a different meaning in certain contexts.
Originally posted by manjiman
I see a lot of people who get pissed about the amount of muslim immigrants that come into their country. I get pissed too because a lot of them are not very sociable or neighbor like. They do not want to learn the language or adopt the laws of the country they are in. Where I live, there is a huge middle eastern / south western asian presence. A lot of people will talk to me in their language and expect to me know that language because of my skin color. I just get upset that they do not want to learn the language, but that is my grudge. Most of these muslim migrants keep to themselves and work really hard to provide for their families. I go to school with their children and I can tell you that their children are a lot more open minded and tolerable. Some of them turn out to be criminals, but most of my muslim friends go to university and study hard. A lot of them are becoming doctors to help other humans out. So, before you discredit all muslims, maybe you should take the time to really listen to what some muslims say before you go and generalize all of them.
sorry for the rant OP and other ATS members
Originally posted by kj6754
Don't be ignorant Acharya. Christianity is also a religion with blood on it.
Originally posted by cushycrux
This is no longer my ATS, my foe list is endless. -.-
hate and fear as solution - you made my day bad people!
Originally posted by Granite
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
So. Acharya. What do you propose be done with these Muslims we should fear? Simple question, reasked directly.
Immediatey arrest 100 with criminal records, put them on a rusty barge, tow barge to Saudi Arabia coast, get that Russian Admiral of Somali pirate ship fame...
Boom problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by faceoff85
You keep doing this quoting a piece and answering thing taking my message out of context as shown in your previous post.. I will show you with this response (read all the way to try and understand mkay?)
Your answer had nothing to do with an unsatisfactory answer, as you've shown in the response, the answer I gave YOU was yet again not satisfactory
Well ya know... with tha big headband on and stuff............
Should I overdramatize? nope.. use your imagination please.. tell me what you come up with... might be funny..
This really is funny stuff.. k here goes.. Well Ya know.. with the Allah disndat stuff........Uhmm.. Im not really into fishing... this uncle of mine is though... want his number? maybe not!!Uhmm... Didn't I just make that painfully obvious that there is indeed room for doubt? Heck there is not 1 post on ATS wich has no room for doubt...Uhmm... yeah I'm gonna call no comment on this one... simply dont remember what they said K now you're playing dumb right? Small riot=streetfight or something akin to it...If you really dind't expect me to prove it you wouldn't be on my back like you are K, Just wondered about that, you gave the impression you were..K, Just wondered about that, you gave the impression you were..
Why do I feel like I'm repeating myself....?
Originally posted by faceoff85
I know they were muslim
and on like that. See the difference between stating something over and over again as a known fact and actually acknowledging room for doubt without having it badgered out of you? Of course. You knew what they said when you claimed they said it but when I ask you to explain what you know they said, you no longer know what they said. Your story is amazing so far. Not at all. Two incongruous words are not synonyms. Nothing dumb about it. 146 you say? Not true at all. It is all about the difference between anyone making any claim on the internet and being able to believe it even a little. Was it the way I dress or act or talk? Seems to me you are not very good at being able to judge who is and is not a Muslim so the story is falling apart a little more each step of the way. Because you just asked me a question I already answered for you, that is why.
Originally posted by faceoff85
Those people coming out on the streets were indeed muslims, they were indeed showing joy over the attack on 9-11-2001.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Acharya
I saw your "link."
Central to the book's thesis is a tabulation of what Lynn and Vanhanen believe to be the average IQs of the world's nations. Rather than do their own IQ studies (a potentially massive project), the authors average and adjust existing studies.
...
For 104 of the 185 nations, no studies were available.
You base an awful lot of your premise on someone's beliefs and adjustments.