You have the Right to be Racist, Bigoted, and Hateful

Originally posted by dragnet53
Cool.

SO I have the right to hate the BS we call humanity?

yes, yes you do! And i promise to hate anyone who tries to take your right to hate away from you by hateful means!

Originally posted by muzzleflash
You have a Right to be Racist, Bigoted, and Hateful.

You do. Every human being has a right to their opinion. You have a right to speak your opinion.

But watch out, because everyone has a right to criticize your opinion with their opinions.

This is a Fact. You are a free human being and can choose your own path.

Correct

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
C) Violence and Assaults.

1) Is illegal and wrong.
2) Is never acceptable even if someone talks crap in your face.
3) You deserve to be imprisoned for harming another person especially if they were only talking crap.
4) Rather than resorting to violence, See section B for solutions.

Violence and Assault can be Lawful and Correct,
If the security of your person is compromised.
You have full authority to secure yourself,
with violence or deadly force if necessary.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 3
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I merely am posting this to clear up the mass confusion about our Rights as Human Beings that is so rampant in today's world.

You hadn't actually cited any Human Rights documents.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Grow a thicker skin, and learn to Ignore those whom you do not like.

If they are attempting to harm or kill you,
thicker skin will not suffice,
thick skin is merely armour,
you can secure yourself,
and attack dangerous,
with weapons.

To maintain the security of your person,
and that of your family with you,
which are included in per-son.
Each child and tribe member,
deserves mutual security.

Remember you have the right,
you have the ability.
The power be eternal,
for your mind and body.
Secure your person(s).

Be safe and happy!

[edit on 16-8-2010 by lowki]

Originally posted by lowki

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

But there are safeguards regarding that freedom, and the prime directive is ultimately one such example.

Originally posted by lowki

Originally posted by muzzleflash
C) Violence and Assaults.

1) Is illegal and wrong.
2) Is never acceptable even if someone talks crap in your face.
3) You deserve to be imprisoned for harming another person especially if they were only talking crap.
4) Rather than resorting to violence, See section B for solutions.

Violence and Assault can be Lawful and Correct,
If the security of your person is compromised.
You have full authority to secure yourself,
with violence or deadly force if necessary.

Yeah but the idea is not to give people the excuse, obviously you don't get the memo, I'm serious.

Originally posted by lowki

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Grow a thicker skin, and learn to Ignore those whom you do not like.

If they are attempting to harm or kill you,
thicker skin will not suffice,
thick skin is merely armour,
you can secure yourself,
and attack dangerous,
with weapons.

To maintain the security of your person,
and that of your family with you,
which are included in per-son.
Each child and tribe member,
deserves mutual security.

Remember you have the right,
you have the ability.
The power be eternal,
for your mind and body.
Secure your person(s).

Be safe and happy!

Still not helping, lowki, except the be safe and happy part.
.
.
There's just something odd about this thread since the start.

Originally posted by Jazzyguy
There's just something odd about this thread since the start.

I find myself pondering more deeply the themes in the Tarantino film Inglourious Basterds, which I happened to catch the other night. The Basterds are so inglorious one almost feels revulsion towards their brutality even though they were doing away with utter scum. Hate and violence attempting to correct hate and violence ended up with almost everyone dead at the end.

Me...? I blame it on the sunshine, I blame it on the
moonlight, I once blamed it on a good time.
But being a vintage movie fan, I refuse to blame it
on the 'Bogey'

We can do whatever we feel, it's just when the majority
disagree with you using nuclear devices to get the dogs
of your lawn and the such... well, we have to fit in, don't
we?

If you feel comfortable with an idea and you don't mind
what problems OR benefits that this idea will encourage
from others, then so be it.

It's easier to go along to get along.
Here endeth the lesson.

Originally posted by Jazzyguy

Originally posted by lowki

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

But there are safeguards regarding that freedom, and the prime directive is ultimately one such example.

What prime directive? Star trek?

Prime Directive dictates that there can be no interference with the internal development of pre-warp civilizations, consistent with the historical real world concept of Westphalian sovereignty.

You're a homo-sapien, in a "pre-warp civilization".
You can take part in earth homo-sapien activities.

Everyone has their own main goal.
If entities evolve at random,
those that replicate,
thrive.

Originally posted by lowki
Violence and Assault can be Lawful and Correct,
If the security of your person is compromised.
You have full authority to secure yourself,
with violence or deadly force if necessary.

Yeah but the idea is not to give people the excuse, obviously you don't get the memo, I'm serious.

Which memo?
"If someone attacks you: Lay down and die."
That's a ticking time-bomb of a suicide memo.

Originally posted by lowki
Remember you have the right,
you have the ability.
The power be eternal,
for your mind and body.
Secure your person(s).

Be safe and happy!

Still not helping,

Not helping what?

It's improving your bodies chances of living.

lowki, except the be safe and happy part.

to be safe maintain your security,
to be happy maintain your creativity.


[edit on 16-8-2010 by lowki]

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
The Basterds are so inglorious one almost feels revulsion towards their brutality even though they were doing away with utter scum. Hate and violence attempting to correct hate and violence ended up with almost everyone dead at the end.

I haven't watched the movie, but that's definitely very interesting. I'll try to remember what you have just said, thank you, starred.

Do you think this is what the zionists and the jihadists are doing btw?

reply to post by lowki


I think one must the discern, metaphorically, the difference between killing a disease with, say, antibiotics, which isn't killing out of hate but self-preservation, versus killing a disease by killing one's self in the process. Hate is poison to the soul and body.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by lowki

 

I think one must the discern, metaphorically, the difference between killing a disease with, say, antibiotics, which isn't killing out of hate but self-preservation, versus killing a disease by killing one's self in the process. Hate is poison to the soul and body.

Yes I agree,
That's why I'm providing a meme-vaccine:
Islamic Suicide Virus Meme-Vaccine
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Do you think this is what the zionists and the jihadists are doing btw?

I think he made the point without saying it (among others), and that's how he gets away with it. The Shoah certainly set the stage for terrible vengence by way of selecting the "fittest" memes. The Reich's conspicious symbolism assists in cementing those memes in the minds of the population. It's our obligation to resist that use of magick by being conscious of it.

One most entertaing theme was how the Nazis never seem to know when they are not wanted around and seem to think everyone just wants to cuddle up to them. It reminds me of something else but I'll just not get into that here.

Originally posted by lowki
What prime directive? Star trek?

Prime Directive dictates that there can be no interference with the internal development of pre-warp civilizations, consistent with the historical real world concept of Westphalian sovereignty.

You're a homo-sapien, in a "pre-warp civilization".
You can take part in earth homo-sapien memes.

I guess I'm thinking of the wrong directive, it's definitely higher than that.

Everyone has their own main goal.
If entities evolve at random,
those that replicate,
thrive.

So what happen if they don't evolve at random? I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Originally posted by lowki
Which memo?

I think you should not focus just on the things that are obvious but also on those which are subtle.

"If someone attacks you: Lay down and die."
That's a ticking time-bomb of a suicide memo.

How about saying nothing at all regarding that matter, isn't that the best policy right now?

Originally posted by lowki
Remember you have the right,
you have the ability.
The power be eternal,
for your mind and body.
Secure your person(s).

Be safe and happy!

Still not helping,

Not helping what?

It's improving your bodies chances of living.

lowki, except the be safe and happy part.

to be safe maintain your security,
to be happy maintain your creativity.

Hmm, I think I'm done here, this is getting off topic, perhaps this thread indeed belongs in the PPM (Psychology) board rather than here.

Originally posted by Jazzyguy

Everyone has their own main goal.
If entities evolve at random,
those that replicate,
thrive.

So what happen if they don't evolve at random?
I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Random implies taking all possible routes.
If all memes are attempted,
those that replicate,
will thrive most.

Originally posted by lowki
Which memo?

How about saying nothing at all regarding that matter, isn't that the best policy right now?

You're irresponsible.

Response-ability.
If you can't respond to the query,
you're not being responsible for your previous statements.

The shadow you cast,
has been unveiled with light.
Really there be nothing behind your memo allusion.

to be safe maintain your security,
to be happy maintain your creativity.

Hmm, I think I'm done here, this is getting off topic,
perhaps this thread indeed belongs in the PPM (Psychology) board rather than here.

It is a policy issue in a polity so be political.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
was created by the United Nations,
it is a policy that spans the polity,
which comprised much of the planet.

These are the rights or lawful abilities,
that you be able to express,
and be secure in person,
among others.

[edit on 16-8-2010 by lowki]

reply to post by EnlightenUp

Both of your next two posts, those are more food for thought for me. Perhaps we'll have other opportunites to talk further.

reply to post by lowki

And you too lowki, until next time.

This is one of the most endearing and pro freedom threads I've witnessed on ATS since joining.

I wish I could give you ten stars and flags.

Roger THAT!!! GREAT POINTS!!!!
I OPENLY "discriminate". I remember, when THAT, was a GOOD THING!!!
I ONLY eat GOOD FOOD!!
I only drink, fresh, healthy beverages (when I can help it!)
I only employ, decent, hard-working, honest people- as far as I can tell!
"Discrimination", has NOTHING to do with skin color!! It IS, about having, and exercising, "common sense".

I do not know what to say other than that all people should know what is right and wrong !
"One Man's Food is other Man's Poison"

I am really confused now lol...............

To the OP thanx for confusing me...................

Originally posted by Onboard2

Originally posted by Gun Totin Gerbil
What happens when whole communities are bigoted , racist and hateful . Such that they do not have any kind of limiting factors to bring them back into the realms of normality and decency , say like some areas of the US in some southern states ?

Birds of a feather flock together. Would you have anything in common with them? If not, you wouldn't associate with them.

Gun totin gerbil asked a reasonable question. Onboard, why can't you give a reasonable answer? Maybe because it would not fit the thesis presented by the OP?
Here is the problem with all of this lofty sentiment: It is obvious you have always been on the side throwing the sticks and stones, instead of being on the receiving end. Funny how you wouldn't be hitting the 'ignore' if you were on the receiving end.
Laws already exists concerning your tough skin philosophy - Liable and Slander. Remember those? Read them sometimes to get a good look at what they are for. Besides the physical there is always the mental and mental anguish is not caused by physical violence, but mental anguish which is caused by heartless, cruel people thinking others should just 'get tough'.
The problem with your open ended paradox as a solution is this; there are plenty of you that have starred and flag this post but in the past others have violated you verbally (or some in other ways) and not one of you turned on the ignore button. Why? And don't come back with the cop-out that you are a hypocrate. How about you are a control freak who just wants your way until your way doesn't suite you anymore and you break the rules you created in favor of ones that suite your outlook.
Of course you all would love for this ignore button to work but I'll give you some historic facts that prove your fantasy fallacy!
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

I say kick em all out, go back to your own country.

Originally posted by Jazzyguy


OMG, OP are you using this thread to socially bait people?

By showing yourself as the negative, you believe that somehow the positive will interact with you? Is this what's it all about?

So you're just using this real issue as a tool. So you're not really interested in talking about racism or freedom of speech, you're just looking for some interaction with some people, is that it?

Ad hominem attacks.

en.wikipedia.org...

An ad hominem, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "to the man"), is an attempt to link the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.[1] The ad hominem is a classic logical fallacy

Learn to debate the subject and not the poster.

EnlightenUp said:

The semantics of "new" certainly matters. If it's meant to imply an equal and opposite compensation, which I have often seen expressed, it's also a lie.

In the article I linked written by a physicist which you obviously did not read at all, sadly;
education.jlab.org...

If you cut one in half, the newly cut faces will become the new north or south poles of the smaller pieces.

AKA : New Negative and Positives.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
If my post is a "new negative", it's a higher negative that is a decidedly positive negative relative to the current status quo. In a relative sense, it is 100% positive.

So, when you are negative, it is such a "high negative" that it is positive, simply because it is you and you are so much more superior than other humans whose negativity you hate?

That is some extreme bigotry, my enlightened and highly evolved friend.