Originally posted by cupocoffee
Just because Greer and SEAS/AERO/Orion Project/whatever have failed to produce any technology does not mean that free energy is a hoax.
don't try and shift the goal posts here cupocoffee. This thread is about Greer and Hoagland.
Look around, there has been a lot of big news on the free energy front in the past few years, from players other than Greer.
I am aware
of that. In fact my friend has a PhD and specializes in the field of photovoltaics. So not only am I familiar with what is "news" from the likes of
Greer, but also what is news from actual scientists at the cutting edge of the energy industry.
But you raise an interesting point in relation to what news is out there. Greer has consistently reported "new" technology in relation to his
numerous "energy" organizations. He has repeatedly reported the news that he has the actual knowledge and technology as well as the scientists and
engineers who know how create prototypes in order to generate interest in future large scale production.
He has consistently reported the news that he needs people to invest.
He has done this for over 10 years.
He has produced nothing.
No prototypes, no release of technology or information. No names of the numerous scientists or engineers he claims are involved.
He has done it so often that it is not even news anymore.
Greer's energy projects could have failed for any number of reasons - Greer's bad rep, lack of funding, disagreements with the inventors, etc
Greer could be a liar. Greer could be a scam artist. Greer could be merely creating shell companies in Order to attract investors.
Given your bias I have added a few alternatives to explain Greer's failure in order to even up the spectrum of possibilities so as to reflect
But just because Greer has failed to make any big free energy disclosures does not mean people should give up on free energy.
Point out where I say that.
Please don't invent an argument.
I understand your desperation to defend an individual you have obviously invested a great deal of faith, time, money and other resources in.
The field or topic of free energy is a totally different discussion.
This field has legitimate and a real potential to benefit our future.
Just because this field is a legitimate and real possibility does not automatically render Greer's participation or claims relating to that topic as
being legitimate and real.
In fact, history provides us with ample evidence that Greer is not legitimate and has provide no real input into the topic.
None of what he has claimed has materialized in 10 years.
None of the 3 companies he has started has completed anything of any sort. Why does he even need 3?
Please do not try to disguise your blind faith in this man by trying to steer the topic onto an imagined and invented opinion relating to free energy
in order to apologize and make excuses for Greer's obvious fraud and deception.
It reeks of desperation.
And! It reeks as strong as many of Greer's claims.
Just admit it.
You just another poor sucker who got bent over and screwed for all those books and Dvd's and conferences, Greer's Guide to Buff Moth Bodybuilding
Video's you paid your hard earned for, and Greer didn't even have the manners to tap you on the shoulder first!
[edit on 8/9/10 by atlasastro]