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New Hoagland and Greer Interview! Disclosure is coming!

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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:06 AM
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I just dont understand how a normal human being would tote around a picture of a Moth claiming its Alien and then turn around and charge people 100 bucks a pop to look at it.

That is taking advantage of the gullible tin foil hat wearing morons out there and thats probably exactly how Dr Greer viewed most of them.




posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:08 AM
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Nice post with the MUFON letter. Out of the people who've dealt with Greer...have any of them got a good memory or pleasant word? He's ripped off, disappointed or plain lied about so many folk it's almost comical.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 
Nice post with the MUFON letter. Out of the people who've dealt with Greer...have any of them got a good memory or pleasant word? He's ripped off, disappointed or plain lied about so many folk it's almost comical.


Kandinsky.....

Only the "gullibles" could feel good about Greer.

Have you read some of the reports from people who attended his field trips & who saw nothing?

"Ahh.....yeah.....right.....now y'all are standin' in a dematerialised spaceship! If y'all look real hard y'all can see the dematerialised aliens!"


Seriously.....that's the appalling BS that goes on there.

Cheers
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:30 AM
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Blackout.....


I just dont understand how a normal human being would tote around a picture of a Moth claiming its Alien and then turn around and charge people 100 bucks a pop to look at it.


Greer isn't "a normal human being". He's a selfish, hoaxing, defrauding narcissist.


That is taking advantage of the gullible tin foil hat wearing morons out there and thats probably exactly how Dr Greer viewed most of them.


As I keep saying, it's absolutely awful to think that people are almost certainly struggling to pay bills, feed their kids, etc... because in their hope for "something better", they have been conned out of their hard earned money by the appalling Greer.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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Hopefully, one day someone will do a decent investigation and hold him to account.

The rock star thing mentioned by Coffee could be a different reason? Maybe the bodyguards are there cos he's scared of comeback from guys he's screwed over? Hence the steroid and BS sandwich diet? He probably uses the same accountants as Don King.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 05:06 AM
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This is well worth a read and pretty much confirms everything that is said about the CSETI "training" scams.

A personal experience with Steven Greer's "CSETI" seminar


The bodyguard thing is something he may have picked up from others. It's meant to suggest that the person under guard is of some importance and permanently under threat because of the information they hold. I've read somewhere that John Lear used to do it when he was on the speaking circuit. In reality it's just a show to augment the bs. Having said that they'd probably come in handy if any "trainee" got wise to the scam demanded their money back.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 05:45 AM
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Kandinsky.....

The talk of Greer's "bodyguards" got me thinking.

I thought.....

"What if they're really his....well you know.....his, ummm, friends.....?"

So.....I started looking.....

Have you read that stuff about Greer accidentally posting pornographic pictures of himself on line in some sort of bodybuilding forum?

I've been looking for it.

Whilst I've been about that, I found this bodybuilding UFO site where they mention Greer!

Bodybuilding UFO Site That Talks About Greer

"Oy! My aliens are bigger than your aliens!"


Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


[edit on 18-8-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:00 AM
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No. I've never heard any of that. I wonder if he initiates his CE-5 protocols and has some transcendental fun with these space critters?



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:02 AM
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Disclosure is HERE. When the UK released those documents about Churchill, that removed any doubt. Stop looking for it guys, it's already here. Aliens exist, no need to prove that anymore.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:03 AM
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Kandinsky.....

I picked it up in a couple of blogs, which then pointed back to GLP, where it seems to be a hot topic.

I'd infiltrate & have a looksy, but I sort of can't get in there anymore!


Cheers
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:22 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:25 AM
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Lauraeleven.....

You might be better off starting a new thread, if you feel you would like the picture discussed.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:26 AM
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@Maybe...maybe not

In most posts I have read about UFOs and Aliens, there you are. Spending what IMO is way to much time on flaming and trolling almost everything and everyone involved with this topic. Granted I have not been a member for very long, but I have noticed that much at least. You are not the only one of course, but you seem to be constant troll on the UFO forums.

As for Greer... I find many of the subjects he talks about interesting, even if I personally think he is less than honest. And there are others that are more "realistic" in their approach. But this constant "debunking" of Greer seems personal, or you are a disinformation agent...

Either way, give it a rest. I'm tired of wading through pages and pages of trolls on topics I'm watching. Instead I would suggest you make a post where you make your case why Greer is a fraud, rather than attempting to derail a post with flames.


Personally I think persons like Bob Dean, Jim Marrs and Jordan Maxwell are closer to the truth than Greer and his cohorts. But that's my opinion, and gut feeling.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:32 AM
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Not enough posts yet to start a thread.

I thought that maybe the people interested in Hoagland etc. might like
to see this BUT if this thread has been hijacked by debunkers than maybe it will get lost in the shuffle. oh well, carry on. thanks ~L~




posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:32 AM
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Exactly LoveHina. I barely ever come to this forum anymore just because of the non-stop bickering and thread over taking that goes on. Why post on a conspiracy forum if your only agenda is piss all over every thread you come across?



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by cupocoffee

I don't have the knowledge to rip the footage off the DVDs, nor do I have a video camera, nor do I have video editing software. Nor am I convinced the Staff would let me post it even if I spent all that time and did all that work.

You will just have to suffer without it I'm afraid! Or spend the measly $30 and get it yourself.


Hi cupocoffee,
I have noticed in many of your posts you mention this Dvd footage that Greer has, with other images etc etc.
And that this footage is for sale. A measly $30 you say. That is not that expensive IMHO. But I won't be paying it.

Let me explain why.
Greer's project is called the DISCLOSURE project.

The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret.


So, where is the disclosure?
Why is it limited to those that purchase Dvd's?
I thought Greer wanted to FULLY disclose the facts!
Not SELL it!
That is not disclosure, that is the retail selling of information, made into a commodity and packaged as Disclosure.
Disclosure is a PRODUCT being sold by Greer.
You have been convinced by Greers advertising campaign and PR tactics.

The Disclosure Product Project even has a PRODUCT PDF.
www.disclosureproject.org...

It is under the SHOPPING option on the home page.
www.disclosureproject.org...

I know alot of people mention that the Disclosure Product/Project has attracted some highly credible, well educated individuals as well as Military personal and scientists.

What Greer has done, as with many other in the UFO/ET scam industry is to recruit these people as "brand ambassadors".
These people have a genuine interest and may have had experiences that they cannot explain and so on the surface of things their interest is sincere and their hopes of finding an explanation or a truth relating to the UFO field is exploited by the likes of Greer.
These individuals lend credibility and a veneer of sincerity to the Disclosure Product/Project.
This type of Confidence scam has been a staple of many Property/Financial scams for decades and attracts investors to a "product".
Greer has simply applied it to the UFO field.
As with most of these scams, there is never any result just a promise of "wealth". In Greer's case as opposed to the property/financial product scams the "wealth" is the promise of "unlimited energy" or "disclosure" and "ET contact".
As yet, in the 10 years that Greer has set up 3 energy companies he has not produced anything.
CSETI has produced nothing except photo's of insects.
Disclosure has produced nothing but Disclosure Products.

All for a measly $30 you say.

Greers type of Scam is akin to an Affinity Scam

They often enlist respected community or religious leaders from within the group to spread the word about the scheme, by convincing those people that a fraudulent investment is legitimate and worthwhile. Many times, those leaders become unwitting victims of the fraudster's ruse.
These scams exploit the trust and friendship that exist in groups of people who have something in common.


The Disclosure Projects Press Conference at the National Press Club, in 2001, was introduced by the ACTOR Jon Cypher.
Please.
Then he adds the colour with the "witnesses". At the End of the press conference in 2001, Greer was asked, what proof do you have, he responded, "the witnesses of course".
Of course! 10 years on, that is still all the disclosing that Greer has done.

Oh! And a video for a measly $30.

Greer has said this recently:
"Hawking should refrain from stirring the war-mongering fear pot that attends all things "alien." And one might ask: Why would he make such statements, unless he is carrying water for the military-industrial-financial complex which profiteers off of the wars that fear breeds?".
www.disclosureproject.org...

Yet Greer and Hoagland knotch up fear campaign or the unseen "war" going on in the OP video. And they want you to attend the up coming conference to learn more.
So this is the ET/UFO financial scam complex Greer is carrying water for:


CSETI is committed to the thoughtful long-term development of bilateral ETI-Human communication and exchange, and open public education on the subject. We regard this endeavor as the most important scientific and educational project of the next thousand years and invite you to join us.


Open learning......NOT.

Videos. as you say are a measly $30 to be edumacated by Greer.

Or you can be Open learned for

Registration Cost: $495.00 ($450 for those who have participated in a CSETI 1-week training since 2000 or 1-day workshop in 2009 or 2010 or the 2009 Rio Rico Conference)
cseti.org...

Guess who will be at the above conference.
Mr. Hoagland. Imagine that.

BTW, you may notice the discount if you did the 1 week CSETI course. Its a huge saving of $45 dollars if you spend

Tuition Fees: $995 (including part of the materials) (for all the United States trainings only)

But, if you do this course, you have to be up to date.

Required Reading/Study: Before attending the training, everyone must study Dr. Greer's first 3 books: Extraterrestrial Contact, Disclosure, and Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge (please order separately from the Disclosure Project web site at www.DisclosureProject.org..., and Dr. Greer's latest book with DVD: "Contact: Countdown to Transformation". In addition, everyone must practice meditation using both meditation CDs that Dr. Greer has produced (Hidden Truth meditation CD and Cosmic Consciousness CD with the mantra) for at least 4 times each, and also study the CSETI Working Group Training kit/manual which is included as a file download and on CDs.
www.cseti.org...

Its only a measly thousand or so, plus the conference. Oh, and the books and the DVD and the meditation CD.

Ready for the field yet Cupocoffee, or do you need to check with your bank manager first, to see if you can afford to be disclosured?

But hey, this is about the truth. Its about getting the truth out there, isn't it cupocoffee.
And the truth is worth it. Then you can spread the truth, and let the world know.
Because that is what Greer is all about.

As you say, get out there into the field, learn the truth, its about disclosure. Spreading the truth to everyone, sharing the knowledge...........

When you do the courses, you sign a confidentiality agreement.
WTF, I hear you say!
The benevolent, disclosure promising, free thinking humanitarian truth seeking Dr. Greer wants you to sign a confidentiality agreement?
www.cseti.org...



By my signature affixed below, I agree to hold all proceedings of this CSETI Ambassadors to the
Universe Training Retreat confidential and agree that it shall not be shared publicly without the prior
express written consent of CSETI.


And if any one asks you questions, about your experiences with the truth Cupocoffee, your "fieldwork".
You have to do this:

I agree that should any questions arise regarding the use of any names, images, recordings, writings or
information in any form whatsoever connected with this training retreat, to contact CSETI at once.


Sound more like Agent to CSETI, then Ambassador to the Universe.


That sick feeling in your stomach right now. cupocoffee.
That is the truth sinking in cupocoffee.
Don't fight it.



"Within two years, Washington will admit the reality of UFOs. Within five years there will be interaction with creatures... .and maybe even televised interviews with extraterrestrials by then..."
-Nuclear Physicist STANTON FRIEDMAN, as quoted in an interview published on May 6th, 1967 in the Akron (Ohio) Beacon Journal.




posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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LoveHina.....

If you would like to discuss material I have posted in this or any other thread that you feel is incorrect, please let me know & I will be very pleased to oblige.

If you do decide to review some of my work, you will find that most of my threads are in this Aliens & UFOs Forum, or in the Medical Forum wherein I can often be found discussing some of the advanced medical technology with which I am involved.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by lauraeleven
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Not enough posts yet to start a thread.
I thought that maybe the people interested in Hoagland etc. might like
to see this BUT if this thread has been hijacked by debunkers than maybe it will get lost in the shuffle. oh well, carry on. thanks ~L~


Lauraeleven.....

You will attain 20 post status very quickly. When you do, you can start a thread.

If you need any help with your first thread, let me know.


Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by oldgoat
Exactly LoveHina. I barely ever come to this forum anymore just because of the non-stop bickering and thread over taking that goes on. Why post on a conspiracy forum if your only agenda is piss all over every thread you come across?


Oldgoat.....


Why post on a conspiracy forum if your only agenda is piss all over every thread you come across?


I'm curious.....

To which member do you refer, when you say their "only agenda is piss all over every thread" they "come across?"

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



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