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....noise requirements are dooming them to a life in South America.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
.....maybe this thread can now die peacefully, in its sleep...
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by 4nsicphd
....noise requirements are dooming them to a life in South America.
Or Africa? A few have "hush kits", but I think the rules have tightened to where even that is insufficient anymore, for most jurisdictions in the western world....
Well, it's OK....building new airplnes helps the world's economy, anyway....
I think I have calmed down enough to try to post something here. If I think about it too much, then it gets very tough for me. What I mean is there is an emotion that goes with this event and I think it was designed to be that way. There is this overbearing horror that lingers over it, a strange inexplicable malevolent thing that the human mind wants to attach to something to put a name to it and have a target to attack. We are directed to this nebulous thing called terrorism which is not satisfying to the soul so that there is a unquenchable longing to strike and strike again until you are satisfied but it never comes. (talking about stupid useless wars)
There seem to be two arguments in this thread; the first that it was impossible for a regular plane to fly in that way, and the second that it was impossible for the hijackers to pilot it. I was addressing the first argument in my post, but my view is much the same on the second. I accept it was improbable, but I've yet to be convinced it was impossible.
Originally posted by 4nsicphd
Originally posted by XPLodER
i think this is important
1. 747 boiengs have hyrolic acuated flight serfaces that are controlled by a computer processor
2.this processor smooths out piolet imput to the wings and tail flaps
3. you cannot turn on a dime pull up in a few feet or roll in a short space of time
4.stresses on the airframe are limited by processor to stay under a predescribed limit
conclusion
i doubt weather any piolet can recreate these manovers without by passing this system
the hijackers would not have been able to bypass this processor
the plane is capable of this manuver but only with previous modifycations
the most likely reason these planes hit was some form of lazer guiding system tapped directly into the processor making litterly thousands of course corrections a second
human piolets flighing a normal 747 cannot carry out these sudden sharp corrections and the computer processor in control will not allow the output changes required to garenty a hit as this was nessacery to the whole callaspe plan
xp
[edit on 14-8-2010 by XPLodER]
What you are describing in the first part of your post is a fully "fly-by-wire" system, which the 747 does not have. By the way, why are you even talking about the 747? That was not what the OP was about. The aircraft in question was the 757/767 type. I happen to have FAA type ratings for both the 747 and 757/767. The 757/767 does have a fully autonomous system with software that limits g-forces which i in your post.s what I think you were trying to get at in your post. The 747 does not have that software.
The 757 is used on heavy domestic routes as well as transatlantic routes between North America and Europe.[11] The majority of 757s are in service with U.S. carriers (64% of aircraft in service at July 2007), Delta Air Lines and American Airlines being the first and second largest customers of the type, respectively. Prior to July 2007, American Airlines was the largest operator, operating a total of 141 757s. American Airlines has retired their 757 fleet that was inherited via American's buyout of TWA, due to the fact that they use Pratt & Whitney engines rather than Rolls-Royce like most of American's 757s. United Airlines, Continental Airlines, US Airways, America West Airlines (now a part of the US Airways Group), and Northwest Airlines (now a part of Delta Air Lines) also operate large 757 fleets. The 757 is the only type of aircraft currently used by all five U.S. "legacy" airlines. The 757 is also used by holiday/charter airlines, mainly in North America and Europe.
The 757/767 does have a fully autonomous system with software that limits g-forces which i in your post.s what I think you were trying to get at in your post. The 747 does not have that software.
i.e. it is not used in the middle east, where the 747 is widely used. Where would they have received their training then?
Originally posted by HassleHoff2010
Wow, this is an awesome thread.
I read the whole thing. It is clear who commands the thread vs. those who wish it to be silenced.
I highly encourage all reading this post to spend a bit of time to read the thread and click through the evidence presented.
Star and Flag.
Originally posted by HassleHoff2010
Wow, this is an awesome thread.
I read the whole thing. It is clear who commands the thread vs. those who wish it to be silenced.
I highly encourage all reading this post to spend a bit of time to read the thread and click through the evidence presented.
Star and Flag.