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Aliens are out there... and we need to stop trying to talk to them

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posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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I agree we should be colonizing Mars to protect our species. If a meteor were to strike Earth we might face extinction.

However its utter nonsense to stop trying to contact aliens. Any alien capable of travelling the stars will certainly be peaceful. They would have otherwise long ago destroyed themselves with their advanced technology.

Its typical human arrogance to think that we are special enough to even warrant an invasion. Why, because our planet is so special and unique ? Aliens are going to travel trillions of miles, skipping past billions of worlds to come here and conquer us ??? cmon give me a break.

the only threat mankind faces from alien contact is their loss of control over the masses. Once their technologies and ideologies are introduced, the elite can kiss their control over us goodbye. When people learn that aliens have no concept of a monetary system because technology liberated them from most tasks, they will want the same.




posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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Stephen Hawking: "It's time to leave Earth."

Mankind *must colonise space or face extinction, academic Stephen Hawking has warned

*Warns resources are running out
*mankind still has "aggressive instincts"
*If Aliens exist, may "not be friendly"

MANKIND must look to colonize outer space within the next century or it will become extinct,

renowned British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking warned the Big Think website yesterday.

Professor Hawking said the human race is entering an increasingly dangerous period of its history.


www.disclose.tv...



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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why would they attack what they've created? and or are protecting?

what purpose would they have for attacking something that cannot defend itself and presents zero threat to their agenda?

we're more their entertainment



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by aliengenes
why would they attack what they've created? and or are protecting?

what purpose would they have for attacking something that cannot defend itself and presents zero threat to their agenda?

we're more their entertainment


They may know they have limited time after they come out to do as much damage as possible. They know their days are numbered. I didnt say they planned to destroy the cities. They work through deception in my view. Many will be in awe, many in panic at the sight of many fleets nearby.

[edit on 14-8-2010 by wonderworld]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 06:33 PM
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For every action is an equal and opposite reaction, if there are evil aliens, there must be good aliens as well. People keep saying aliens are hostile, I'm sure just as there are hostile humans, there are hostile aliens. But, one need only look at humanity to see the diversity and realize this is probably true of other life forms. Humans aren't even consistent across their own species, its probably the same with extraterrestrial beings. Either way, we obviously need to be careful. Even if you don't believe in aliens, you would do yourself some good to look into it, and find out the different types people are talking about. There is talk of a fake alien invasion that will be used to unite the people of the world under a global government. It is said that the greys will come down and say there is a war between them and the reptillians and need our help to fight them, even though the greys are said to work for the reptillians. Or it could be another race that looks similar to humans, maybe another mind-controlled race or grey-human hybrids.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:09 PM
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Many people are looking at the "alien issue" from a human 3d 2010 perspective.

"They" are here

"They" have always been here with us. Read, "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley.

A truely successful invasion would be subtle, clean, takes longer but works more effectively, leaving the resources intact.

Excellent war stragedy. Read, "The Threat" by David Jacobs.

Ingenious really. A slave that doesn't know he / she is a slave will not rebel.

A prisioner that does not realize he / she is imprisioned will not try to escape.

"They" have been infiltrating our government, schools, media and military for egons.

"They" control our information, our leaders and our reality.

By slow infiltration and "mind conditioning of the masses" coupled with "assimilation" of our DNA with theirs - the human race will never know what hit us until it's done hit us and by then, we may never fully understand the extent of it all.

If some of these "visitors" are form outer space, beyond our solar system they would have to be at least a few thousand years ahead of us. If on the other hand they are a millon years ahead of us, it would mean the difference in intellegence like between a man and a ant.

Now, think inner / outer dimensional, parallel world or universe, or a mixture of some or all of the above.

Most people think we 3d humans see, hear, taste and smell the full extent of what is here and now called our reality.

What is reality? It's what each individual perceives. We being 3d humans do not pick up with our 5/6 senses everything that is truely out there. We are limited in our perception.

This issue is like a onion. The more layers you peel, the more there are and the more your eyes sting.

As far as people calling David Icke nuts, this man has connected more of the dots than almost any other person.

Jordan Maxwell is another insightful person.

I've been studying the UFO/Alien agenda for abut 20 years and it's not a simple one two three concept.

Besides the rabbit hole going real deep, theres a mixture of issues entering into this.

Suggest anyone interested read, "The Universe Solved" by Jim Elvidge.

A closed mind and proud heart gathers no knowledge. - Ofhumandescent.



There is far more to this world than taught in our schools, shown in the media, or proclaimed by the church and state. Most of mankind lives in a hypnotic trance, taking to be reality what is instead a twisted simulacrum of reality, a collective dream in which values are inverted, lies are taken as truth, and tyranny is accepted as security. They enjoy their ignorance and cling tightly to the misery that gives them identity.

Fortunately, some are born with spiritual immune systems that sooner or later give rejection to the illusory worldview grafted upon them from birth through social conditioning. They begin sensing that something is amiss, and start looking for answers. Inner knowledge and anomalous outer experiences show them a side of reality others are oblivious to, and so begins their journey of awakening. Each step of the journey is made by following the heart instead of following the crowd and by choosing knowledge over ignorance.

Knowledge is the key to unlocking our potential. It gives us the self-​determination, responsibility, and power necessary to cast off the chains of covert oppression. Knowledge is therefore the greatest protector, for it also gives us foresight to impeccably handle the challenges of life and, most importantly, to sidestep the traps on the path to awakening. The more you know of higher truths and apply what you know, the more you begin operating under higher laws that transcend the limitations of the lower. montalk.net...


Lastly, keep in mind - we are currently based in a 3d reality. If there are beings in say 4th or higher dimensions, we may not be able to see them except sporadically, hence the reasons some ships and being pop in and pop out.

Another good book is Laura Knight Jadczyk's "High Strangeness".



I agree with the opening post.

Personally if someone means you well they are open above board and honest - they are forthright.

If someone means to screw over you, they are secretive, unclear, hidden and deceptful.


[edit on 14-8-2010 by ofhumandescent]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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The Aztecs in Mexico were looking for a great white god to come from the east. The belief stemmed from the legend of Quetzalcóatl. This legend may have been started by some ancient mariner from the middle east who rode the Easterlies into Mexico through the tropics. The original guest probably had a benevolent explorers nature, and may have given the Mexicans secrets to everything from the Egyptian pyramids to key lime pie before traveling on.

When the Spanish conquerors arrived around 1500 the emperor of Mexico welcomed them, thinking these violent natured Europeans were Quetzalcóatl.

So historically aliens with all kinds of different natures travel to distant environments for all kinds of reasons, not just to conquer and claim resources.

[edit on 14-8-2010 by Bordon81]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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isnt it obvious?

aliens probly exist he says, their most likely a threat he says, we should get off earth and risk an encounter with them he says,

isnt it obvious, he wants us to weaponize space and space travel, he wants to prepare the government for an excuse to make enemys with whatever alien race they choose, all it'll take now that he has set them up like this is whatever excuse the governments want to use.

and they'll just say stephen hawking told you so,

most americans will think, 'gee if that smart guy thinks aliens are a threat then it must be true.'

its a dumb move, if any alien race decides to shoot back, we will more than likely be very screwed



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Very optimistic view of Earth potentials, interesting friend.
2nd



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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This man has a high intelligence in certain aspects, he is hardly well rounded.
With that said, don't you think if existence of non-earth origins were made known, Mr. Hawking would lose a significant amount of his "power".

In fact, if he was insecure about his place in history, id venture to say he'd want to prevent us from learning of even higher knowledge...or maybe he's trying to prevent the wrong people from obtaining it!

Gotta think in certain ways that most do not have the ability to.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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Absolutely agree. There is no way that the time wouldn't be right. Our world is in chaos. We can't unite to decide where to go to lunch, let alone fight off an attack by an advanced lifeform with superior technology. There is evidence they have been either visiting for thousands of years, or they are amongst us (ancient astronaut theory) Why would they have waited for us to evolve to the point we have know if they intended on destroying us? Why not zap us when all we can do is throw stones?



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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I don't care what Stephen Hawking says, I am not abandoning my ET contacts just because
Stephen Hawking says to, that would be detrimental to my well being. Know this, the human race will never, repeat never, be destroyed. The human meat suit you all wear can die, suffer cell damage that kills it, but the Inner Self, the Spirit is Immortal, and very powerful. Think about this, it can run a complex biological system with perfect harmony, plus it can store an amazing amount of knowledge and information, make multiple contacts to the Universal Consciousness, and all that it entails. All we need do, really, is get to know that which animates your body all day. It is not human, it is not the face in the mirror, or the touch of the hand, it goes beyond that in ways our primitive minds cannot yet compute.
I was able to do it by performing a series of rituals, other have done it by other means. It have nothing to do with any kind, or sort of religion, it is simply getting to know that which lives within you. If we could al do this, we would have a Peaceful world in which to live, work, and play. No worries.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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Well...I hope Hawking realizes that technological savvy is not the way to get off the planet. Psychic savvy is.

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[...]

So yeah, let's jaunt baby!

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The stars my destination.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by listerofsmeg
i've stopped listening to this man while ago.
all he can offer is a theory and i disagree with it.
if aliens are out there then they have seen us before we started to talk to them. why haven't they attacked?


Time probably means nothing to an advanced race. Maybe they are baiting us with all of the mystery that shrouds the ufo conspiracy, either we are going to be used to seeing them, and want to see something spectacular, then all the sheeple stand on rooftops like Independence Day. Or maybe, thier time to attack is such a ways off to us, but only a few days for them. Or maybe the pre attack has already started, and we dont even know it yet. The pre attack could be them testing the waters so to speak, shut off a nuke base hear, try a black out there. Look at the battle of los angelas, and the response to that. or the fly over the white house in the 50's. How about all of the UFOs that play with planes, and, jets. Maybe they are testing our capabilities, and resources. Abductions to study humanity. All this could be building up to something, just not on a time table that we can comprehend. There are so many factors to consider here if we are going to seriously look at being visited by an other worldly race. Any good military strategist is going to send out the scouts before the cavalry arrives. Scary thought if this goes south for us. As for if there is life out there that could be doing this to us. Well, Im sure for every race, and culture on our planet, there are 100 times more out there on other planets, all with different goals, and ventures.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 11:57 PM
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excellent post...thanks for the video too.

But isn't this all moot? Does Hawkings suggest a viable way for the human
body to survive the radioactive blast of the Van Allen Belt on our way out
of here?

And why would we want to abandon our blue jewel of a planet for the red dust
of a frozen Martian desert?



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 11:58 PM
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Cool thread! Being the Universe as we know it, on an estimated scale from top scientists is 13.7 ± 0.2 billion years old. Earth is only 4.4Billion years old. If we have to leave Earth so early, then whose to say other races and planets haven't already done the same? We see a super nova and were "looking back in time". The Earths age compared to the age of the Universe allows me to believe were not alone let alone being the only species to "expand" our civilization.



posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 12:02 AM
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Hawking is assuming that those ETs who will visit us in the future are as unenlightened as the first modern explorers that we have.

If the ETs are unenlightened beings, then we are doomed for destruction. If the ETs are enlightened beings, then are on to the Golden Age. I believe more that those who will visit us in the future are enlightened beings.

[edit on 15-8-2010 by wavemaker]



posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by gunshooter

Originally posted by listerofsmeg
i've stopped listening to this man while ago.
all he can offer is a theory and i disagree with it.
if aliens are out there then they have seen us before we started to talk to them. why haven't they attacked?


Time probably means nothing to an advanced race. Maybe they are baiting us with all of the mystery that shrouds the ufo conspiracy, either we are going to be used to seeing them, and want to see something spectacular, then all the sheeple stand on rooftops like Independence Day. Or maybe, thier time to attack is such a ways off to us, but only a few days for them. Or maybe the pre attack has already started, and we dont even know it yet. The pre attack could be them testing the waters so to speak, shut off a nuke base hear, try a black out there. Look at the battle of los angelas, and the response to that. or the fly over the white house in the 50's. How about all of the UFOs that play with planes, and, jets. Maybe they are testing our capabilities, and resources. Abductions to study humanity. All this could be building up to something, just not on a time table that we can comprehend. There are so many factors to consider here if we are going to seriously look at being visited by an other worldly race. Any good military strategist is going to send out the scouts before the cavalry arrives. Scary thought if this goes south for us. As for if there is life out there that could be doing this to us. Well, Im sure for every race, and culture on our planet, there are 100 times more out there on other planets, all with different goals, and ventures.

You made a lot of different scenarios yet all of them talk about doom and gloom. Either you are a disinformation agent or you are just not awakened yet.

How about you include in your analysis that maybe they are benevolent beings and they are just waiting for the right time to show themselves to us.



posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by lambs to lions
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Absolutely agree. There is no way that the time wouldn't be right. Our world is in chaos. We can't unite to decide where to go to lunch, let alone fight off an attack by an advanced lifeform with superior technology. There is evidence they have been either visiting for thousands of years, or they are amongst us (ancient astronaut theory) Why would they have waited for us to evolve to the point we have know if they intended on destroying us? Why not zap us when all we can do is throw stones?


I believe that as time has moved forward for us, yes we have learned and created great technology, but I think most of us as humans have lost a great ability. For instance, the poster who was explaining teleportation, and PK energy. I believe we as humans used to be great beings, who could do great things with our minds, over time, we have lost this ability to an extent. I think it is more forgotten, than lost. But I also belive this is what the malevolent E.T.s fear of us. Thus, they would give us technology to advancve us in a wrong direction. If you set a kid in front of a T.V. they will become addicted and not try to use thier brains for anything else except for wanting that T.V. (the tech that aliens have given us.) We take this tech, and put it to use, make products, and promote that "hey, its so easy to use you dont even have to think" Im guessing that is what the aliens ( at least some of them) are trying to do to us. Dumb down your enemy, and send them on a wild goose chase for that miracle technology that will save us from them, when in reality, it will be our own will power that will save us from any sort of alien attack. There's an old saying, "Gadgets will only get you so far."



posted on Aug, 15 2010 @ 12:13 AM
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Not exactly Earths ambassador to the cosmos, is he?



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