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Obama backs mosque near ground zero

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posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by dreamwalker74
reply to post by Adevoc Satanae
 


Didn't hear you complaining about all those out of work when they shut down the stripclub mentioned earlier


Start a thread on it.




posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:12 PM
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This poll doesn't agree with Obama. The seem to feel this is not a religious issue but a sensitivity issue.


Do You Agree With Obama?

Yes, we have a duty to protect freedom of religion

No, this is about sensitivity, not religion

Partly, but the mosque's developers still should consider a more appropriate site

Other (leave a comment)




Do You Agree With Obama?
(current results in the poll)


Yes, we have a duty to protect freedom of religion 9% (19,987 votes)

No, this is about sensitivity, not religion 82% (188,650 votes)

Partly, but the mosque's developers still should consider a more appropriate site 7% (16,118 votes)

Other (leave a comment) 2% (5,424 votes)
Total Votes: 230,179
www.foxnews.com...




[edit on 14-8-2010 by sweetliberty]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:12 PM
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I'm sure someone's already said this but the day that Rome can build a Church in Mecca should be the day that this Mosque gets built in NYC.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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reply to post by Whyhi
 


WTH are you talking about? You said "Equating all Muslims with fundamentalists / extremists is a poor attempt at hiding your hatred of them."

#1 My wife is a Muslim dumb ass
#2 The ones who want to build it said the US should let them have sharia law.

So you see you don't know what or who i was talking to/about and if you don't see how sharia law is a violation of the Constitution and human rights then please stop posting.

No one was ""Equating all Muslims with fundamentalists / extremists " Unless you are saying you know the ones trying to build it are fundamentalists / extremists.



Ps. I would like to say sorry for calling you a dumb ass that was rude. I'm sorry



[edit on 14-8-2010 by GunzCoty]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:20 PM
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reply to post by bowlbyville
 


1) There are already several mosques in New York.

2) Apples and Oranges, this is America, the land of the free, freedom of religion. This is not Saudi Arabia, this is America, just because they don't have Christian churches in Saudi Arabia doesn't mean we should deny freedom of religion to Muslims.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:23 PM
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You are joking right? No you are right? lol the best part was when you said about Obama "defend and uphold the constitution" yeah right.

If you think he cares about the constitution then you need to open your eyes and see how he and bush have pissed on constitution.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by sweetliberty
This poll doesn't agree with Obama. The seem to feel this is not a religious issue but a sensitivity issue.


First of all, that is a Fox News poll. As the poll is only offered on their Fox News show and their Fox News website, it is hardly a reliable poll, especially considering Fox's partisan reputation; the majority of people who go to that website or watch the channel are already predictable in their political opinions.

That said, other polls are still saying that a majority of people seem to think this mosque should be "disallowed." It's frankly disturbing that so many people have such a twisted view of our basic freedoms. As soon as this freedom is granted to somebody they happen to dislike, they don't want it anymore. I can't imagine a more pathetic mob mentality.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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um..... you said "There are already several mosques in New York. "
But then you say "doesn't mean we should deny freedom of religion to Muslims."

huh? Am i the only one who sees the irony in that? Or did i read it wrong?



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by sweetliberty
This poll doesn't agree with Obama. The seem to feel this is not a religious issue but a sensitivity issue.


Hmmmm. Still looking for that right to sensitivity that made this country great.

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Nope. Cannot find any right to be sensitive anywhere. I do see one about religion though. Oh well, nice try though.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by bowlbyville
I'm sure someone's already said this but the day that Rome can build a Church in Mecca should be the day that this Mosque gets built in NYC.


Why should we lower our standards to match anyone else?

Serious question.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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FOX News Poll, and you think they are going to be favorable to Obama? Really? Where have you been?

The Right has never been interested in sensitivity, hell these are the same people who want to throw people off of welfare, food stamps, unemployment and medicare! Sensitivity is not a trait of the Right.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:38 PM
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1) You read it wrong.

2) You hate your wife. (Don't be ashamed, lot's of men hate their wives.)

How many churches does New York have? How many people? Don't you think that this might just be because a new mosque is needed?



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
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FOX News Poll, and you think they are going to be favorable to Obama? Really? Where have you been?


Come on, you are being unfair. Fox News Audience Just 1.38% Black and Fox News has oldest cable audience

Fully representative of the country at large. Everyone knows Obama was only elected by old white people, right?

[edit on 14-8-2010 by Adevoc Satanae]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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lol My wife is roflhao so its not just me. Don't get mad kid.


Forgot to add that maybe you should read all my post before you reply. Because you can't see how this makes you look and maybe thats why you get so mad.


[edit on 14-8-2010 by GunzCoty]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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by your own logic cnn msnbc and the huffington post ISNT a true representation of the country at large either.

[edit on 14-8-2010 by neo96]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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by your own logic cnn msnbc and the huffington post ISNT a true representation of the country at large either.


Wow, you took some clever pills on your time off, di'n' ya!

Not sure what your point is though.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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You people are so funny


What happened to posting something to balance things out? Is it that you like to hear yourself rant?

Post things from other MSM, no one is stopping you.

THESE people said this, add more opinions from the internet to balance it.

Thanks,
sl



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Right.. I don't see an issue with putting a mosque near ground zero.. I mean theres been 1 there for a really long time already.. No one made a stink about the mosque that is blocks away from ground zero..

I understand this is not a 911 thread.. So I wont go into the details.. This is just another move, to get people to hate another group of people for their ideas, and way of life!

Please understand, building a mosque is not a bad thing.. Its what America is all about!

Theres so many things screwed up about this, and how people are reacting to this..
Its like you are playing into their hands so well..
Spoon fed propaganda.. And people are lining up for it!



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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You know what? You are right the op got kicked to the side and no one is posting what the news around the world is saying only what we few here on ATS think.

"THESE people said this, add more opinions from the internet to balance it."

You have a good point. IMO we have to many people who are trying to start something here on ATS or trying to sidetrack a post just for attention. Then other people as well as me get sucked in to the childs play .

So thank you Ima get back to working on this website and leave the kids to fight it out and bicker.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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I guess maybe had you presented it as it really is and said "Here is a poll answered by 97% old white people, then I guess it might not have seemed like a deliberate attempt to pass off such a biased agenda driven pile of numbers as something significantly representative of the actual world we live in.

As far as adding opinions to balance things out...

...well you know that I have done that in 30 or 40 of the other 800 mosque threads currently floating around. How many times do I need to repeat myself? Why should I need to dig up a poll to counter your poll. How about I speak for myself? Plenty of you speaking for New York.



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