An open message to you all "Since when did this website become....., page 5

reply to post by OzWeatherman

I haven't seen too much of this myself...nor have I been on this site for very long, so I'm not familiar with how it was a couple of years ago. I have not seen evidence of much hatred or racism 'spewed' out at all in the time I've been here.

I have seen lots of frank and at times heated exchanges and debates between people with totally opposite points of view or sets of beliefs. I think that's good too, as long as, of course, it doesn't degenerate into an attack on the person rather than the views being expressed....which does happen too frequently IMO.

Some reflections, however....

It is to be hoped, and I think it's true, that more people are becoming aware of the truth of the way things are - and that truth is far from pretty.
When people begin to see how they are being duped by TPTB, some do become angry I think that's totally appropriate. People have every right to be angry..... IMHO better that than the dumbed down complacency of many.

I don't want to go through each of your points, but on the issue of religious intolerance, for example, I'm not sure what you specifically mean by that. But once again, people are at last waking up to the level of corruption which exists in many religions, and thank goodness they are. The belief that religions are somehow 'sacrosanct' and shouldn't be criticised is just oone more tactic to keep people silent and in the dark.

For example, I refuse to be tolerant of genocide carried out in the name of religion, or oil, or anything else. Likewise for paedophilia and worse - by ordinary people, of course, and especially by those who are representatives of any religion whatsoever. I will not remain silent or censored in my thinking or my freedom to express my outrage or my contempt for such deplorable actions.

As more and more of the truth comes out and as more and more people become aware of that truth, it seems to me totally natural that they will be angry. We are being robbed our basic rights, our money, our security, a fair judicial system, democratic elections, freedom of choice and freedom of expression, we are being lied to and duped, we are being poisoned through the water we drink, the air we breathe and the food we eat...many believe we are being 'culled' like animals and we are seeing many of our human brothers and sisters suffering the most horrendous consequences of this madness, and we are suffering too.

So, I am wary of accusations of 'racism', 'religious intolerance', 'hatred', 'prejudice' - not because I agree with any of these in essence - but because these are labels which have been criminally abused by TPTB to keep people silent about these very things.

The house is on fire, and people are becoming more vociferous - and if you want 'nice' and 'comfortable' , with the greatest of respect, I think that is to deny the reality of what is going on in our world.

Many of the truths which are emerging are very, very ugly and shocking, and many people are trying to grapple with these things and try to somehow comprehend the bigger picture which is, frankly, unimaginable and an assault on the psyche.

So, whilst I agree with you that we need to respect each other and be as courteous as we can, and as a stuation warrants, and avoid doing more violence to each other in the form of senseless and unwarranted ad hominem attacks, (IMO the mods do a pretty good job of being on the ball when such things occur and manage to strike a reasonable balance), I can't help feeling wary of the language you are using and what you seem to be implying about the way you think people 'should' be.

As the saying goes:

"I may disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

[edit on 13-8-2010 by wcitizen]