posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 01:09 AM
reply to post by ManWithGrace89
I agree with you on some of those points. People tend to align the war in Iraq with Bush yet both Republican and Democratic politicians supported it
at that time. Even Kerry and Hillary Clinton as I recalled voted for to push for war against Iraq and whether they claimed they were pressured or not
they simply did not make a stand at that time. Even Kerry continued to stand
by his decision in support of the war by 2004. So you are right in
arguing that the blame for the Iraq war is not shared enough.
That being said, the push for the war in Iraq was lead by Republicans, and in particular Bush. Bush and Cheney marketed the war, they lead the
Republicans and many Democrats followed on. Out of the 23 senators who made the stand against this war, 21 could account for being Democrat, one could
be accounted for as Republican Chaffee (Rhode Island) and one independent. Out of the 133 congressmen and women, 6 could only be accounted for as
Republican. So while you have a point in saying that there is this ignorance only Republicans supported this war, the bulk of the blame and the bulk
of this war lies on the Republicans and Bush.
That being said.... He was one dude, representing one branch of the government.
Now this is where I stop with you. By your account Bush was 'one guy' representing 'one branch government' yet this other comment of yours
conflicts with that statement:
We are still at war, we are still in debt, and the leader of the majority party (the prez) still uses the congress as a mouthpeice to promote
its own agenda.
Hold on here. You discount Bush as having majority Republicans in congress at the time of the voting for the Iraq war and yet now under Obama you make
note of this. Is that not deceptive on your side?
Yet he recieves the blame for actions the United States could only take with the support of the representitive branch, and in some cases even
Bush marketed the war at first, he held the power to block any support, he motivated and pushed for the war along with the Republicans behind him. So
while there were Democratic voters Bush held sufficient power to prevent the war from happening.
Why not blame John Kerry? He was on the intelligence commitee when the war drums were being beat.
John Kerry supported the war so he takes part blame as mentioned above but as for him holding the power to stop the war? Thats alittle naive on your
side. Considering that the CIA and othe intellegence agencies made false claims to support the war to Iraq I highly doubt that point could be made in
If everything was such a lie, why didn't he stand up?
There were a number of politicians that stood up and called the war a lie at that time. What did that do? Did that change anything?
The people in congress represent support or resistance to the President. They are supposed to represent the people and the states.
At that time the majority of Americans supported the war in Iraq and the politicans followed suit thanks to the nationalist patriotic BS that was
spouted in the media at that time. So the blame comes right back on the bulk of America. 62% according to CBS at that time.
[edit on 13-8-2010 by Southern Guardian]