I hate garbage like this from people that have no clue what's going on over there. Just pisses me off to see ignorant anti us propaganda especially
regarding our military.
The last poll taken of Afghani citizens showed that 72% support the US presence in afghanistan. The percentage of women is even higher. No offense
but if we intentionally targeted civvies then that number wouldn't be that high.
THe US military does more to prevent civiliian casualties than any foreign military in the world.
The Taliban has a habit of intimidating villagers into hiding weapons and their soldiers.
These Taliban soldiers or at the very least the people who trained them have recieved CIA training in regards to guerilla warfare. They are extremely
They used a fear and intimidation based battle strategy. Because they couldn't be effective in direct combat. This means the use of weapons and
tactics that do take out civilians. This means the use of weapons and improvised explosive devices that maim and leave carnage in their wake. They
are every bit as scary as the VC as far as the things they do to enemy combatants. They want you to see your buddy with his leg blown off from a
claymore. Or you to see your buddy struggling to breathe with nails caked in his bodies.
US specops particularly the Delta contingents as a matter of practice befriend the villages and provide free modern medical care as well as other
assistance to assist them with their agricultural development and security. The villages welcome them and frequently direct them to members of the
The US doesn't intentionally kill civillians. Define a civillian. Does someone hiding taliban combatants in their home a civillian or an
The Taliban tries to get the villagers and tribal leaders to assist them through murder, fear and intimidation. The US uses medical care,
agricultural development, technology and security. WHo are the bad guys there?
99.9% of the us military abides by the rules of engagement and are honorable soldiers trying their damnedest to prevent civillian casualties and
protect these people from the Taliban. With about 100,ooo troops in afghanistan your going to have a few bad apples. But you've seen less than 10
troops committing what is considered a warcrime.
SOmeone brought up the Wikilinks stuff. They are frickin field reports. Do you have any idea what a field report is and how inaccurate they are?
They aren't admissable in a tribunal because they are so errant.
Are you even aware of the extreme level of medical assistance that delta medics have provided these villages? Have you seen the atrocities that many
of these tribal peoples, adults and more kids, have suffered at the hands of the Talibans terror attacks against its own people? The Taliban
frequently targets medical and aid workers so that the only way for the villages to function without suffering these atrocities is to cooperate with
the Taliban. But still the villages choose the US assistance more than 3/4ths of the time.
The simple fact is if you haven't served over there or accompanied some of the contigents then you are speaking from a position of compete ignorance.
There have been about 25,000 Taliban terrorists killed since we went to afghanistan. COnsidering the guerilla nature of their attacks that's a
decent number. Most of the current taliban soldiers are new recruits, most of which are forced into service due to fear and intimidation of their
villages and families. Some of the Taliban leaders have defected to support the US backed Afghan government. Many of their high level leaders have
been killed or captured. Their infrastructure is wiped out. Now they are more scattered and unorganized than ever.
We are doing an exceptional job over there. We have the support of the government and more importantly almost 3/4ths of the population. We have
crippled the Taliban. We crippled AL Quaeda. THere hasn't been a succesful terror attack on US soil since we've been there. We're doing our job
to protect the US and all of the other freedom loving nations of the world. We're doing our job protecting the Afghan people who have been opressed
by the Taliban. And we're doing our best to prevent civillian casualties.
A handfull of bad soldiers who have committed warcrimes is certainly newsworthy, but not to the point where it overshadows all the good we've done.
We've knowingly entered a war that we knew we couldn't achieve 100% victory. Limiting the soldiers by not using the full might of the US military
further compounds that situation. And our efforts can't do anything to change how the Taliban recruits. We can't be everywhere at once with the
present number of troops. We'd literally have to occupy every village with a small troop contigent to stop the taliban from kidnapping and
terrorising villages into giving up their young men. We will never create a stable government in this country's mismash of ethnic, tribal and
religous groups. So our best hope considering the limited scope of our war(something the enemy isn't concerned with), is to establish a temporary
antitaliban government and to cripple the Taliban to the point where it won't be effective for years to come. And we're there. But until
Afghanistan establishes a state sponsered military and until the villagers stand up for themselves and are supported by an Afghani military then the
Taliban will continue to exist. So short of us sending in 1/2 a million troops and unleashing the full might of the US armed forces and being
prepared to stay for a couple years after this, as well as assisting India and Pakistan with eradicating the Taliban there, we won't eliminate them.
By the way, the reason we haven't unleashed the US military monster at it's full capacity is out of concern for civillians, it's not possible to
wage a full scale war in that environment without suffering an inordinate amount of civvie casualties. And we won't do that.
So to all those who have never served in the military in a foreign conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else for that matter, to all those who
haven't been on aid missions to Afghanistan, to all those who haven't been over there in any capacity... If you choose to believe every piece of
Anti US propaganda that you see, if you believe our military is killing civillians and committing warcrimes every day, your speaking from a position
of ignorance. Slap on a screw the US tshirt and go with one of the Taliban sympathetic aid groups to assist the afghan people. See how long the
Taliban lets you live when you get there. They don't care if your an American who is against the US operations in Afghanistan. They don't care if
you come on your little discussion board and bash the US every day. They still want to kill you. ANd if they get a chance, they will. Regardless of
your support of them or condemnation of the US, they will murder you and make an example of you if they get a chance. Think about that.