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Originally posted by JoshNorton
Ah, so you finally found them? 'Cause back in May you didn't even know about the lodge in your town...
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I am no mason, and have no friends who are. but i know many, many masons. Rarely are they anything other than outstanding citizens, from my personal experience.
Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled;
to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it. So God Himself incapacitates many men, by color-blindness, to distinguish colors, and leads the masses away from the highest Truth, giving them the power to attain only so much of it as it is profitable to them to know. Every age has had a religion suited to its capacity.
The Teachers, even of Christianity, are, in general, the most ignorant of the true meaning of that which they teach. There is no book of which so little is known as the Bible. To most who read it, it is as incomprehensible as the Sohar.
So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets, and intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray. There is no sight under the sun more pitiful and ludicrous at once, than the spectacle of the Prestons and the Webbs, not to mention the later incarnations of Dullness and Commonplace, undertaking to "explain" the old symbols of Masonry, and adding to and "improving" them, or inventing new ones.
To the Circle inclosing the central point, and itself traced between two parallel lines, a figure purely Kabalistic, these persons have added the superimposed Bible, and even reared on that the ladder with three or nine rounds, and then given a vapid interpretation of the whole, so profoundly absurd as actually to excite admiration.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by EnlightenUp
Pike was never involved with the KKK. Not with the founding or rituals. If you are serious about your accusation, you'll post your source.
Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it. So God Himself incapacitates many men, by color-blindness, to distinguish colors, and leads the masses away from the highest Truth, giving them the power to attain only so much of it as it is profitable to them to know.
Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R
Being a Luciferian I admire Albert Pike for upholding the Luciferian Doctrine!!
Although he did some atrocious things he is still someone i find interesting and his life was full of adventure.
Sorry I snapped at you earlier.
Originally posted by harryhaller
That's the most fallacious argument i've ever heard.
There is no comparison between Pike and Jesus.
And in fact, from my perspective they seem diametrically opposed.
Originally posted by daddio
Unfortunately I am not privy to the names of the dead of the civil war era. But it has been repeatedly stated that Pike cared not for who was killed that would stand in the way of "his" work.
Who paid him? I would assume the Vatican, as they supplied money and intelligence and manpower to the south.
Originally posted by emsed1
Question: Doesn't Albert Pike speak for the whole of Freemasonry?
Question: Isn't Morals and Dogma the authoritative work on Freemasonry?
Question: Isn't Pike saying that Freemasonry is a religion?
Question: Why would Freemasonry conceal anything? Isn't the purpose claimed to be to bring people TO light rather than lead them away?
Anyway, in my opinion, Pike was trying to explain in the language of the day why Freemasonry does what it does.
It is unfortunate that his writing style doesn't translate well with our modern way of communicating.
Originally posted by daddio
reply to post by muzzleflash
What many have not investigated was Pikes murderous ways. He was a liar and a thief and a murderer of woman and children, but that is war isn't it? Abraham Lincoln himself declared Pike a criminal.
Maybe you Masons should read John Quincy Adams, "Letters on Freemasonry", might enlighten you a bit on what you think you know.
Masonry is luciferian, but is that a bad thing? You can not have a God without an adverse entity, maybe it is God who is bad and Lucifer is good?
Where did freemasonry start? With stone masons. Where did it all go horribly wrong? With the Vatican. They saught control and wealth by selling the idea of a secret society. Then it went political. It should have stayed a guild of craftsmen and not a bunch of politically driven, lunatic elitists.
I am a craftsmen, but would NEVER join a "lodge" just to "fit in" or be "one of the boys". I have better things to do. But I have researched the subject quite deeply. Texx Marrs has an entire library of Masonic books. From Richardson's Monitor, Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor 3rd Ed. and on down, I think he even has a copy of Morals and Dogma too.
Oh, and for those who "believe" the public couldn't handle it, what a lame arse answer. Most people would easily understand it and toss it aside as rubbish, THAT is why it is kept secret, who in their right mind would actually believe in that crap?
It's all about control. Bottom line.