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Originally posted by Reaper2137
if I remember and I could be wrong. I'm sorry I don't have a site or source I read it in the news paper. here goes...
I thought that because he was not a united states citizen he isn't subject to us law he isn't able to sue he isn't able to do much any thing. while I don't think its right to do what they did to this kid. its not right but he isn't a u.s citizen he can't do anything..
side note the geneva convention is for warfare aginst others who have signed that thing. Iraq and afgan haven't signed it I could be wrong I know iraq hadden't so I don't see how its relivent to the con vo. just debating sorry for my bad spelling.. hope it helps..
Originally posted by Reaper2137
brit chick lol..
what I was saying that you missed the point. is that the U.K is no different than the united states save maybe you have better spin doctors than we do I was over in Iraq right along side the brits they did and do the same thing we do. only difference is they are a small country and have better spin doctors. just because you don't hear about it on the BBC only shows how good your gov. is the united states learned from the best only we arn't as good as you brits yet and covering our assess
and you won't find any ROE on shooting a five year old. it happens trust me on that. I've never had to shoot a kid before don't know if I could but they use every thing they can I've seen donkey bombs retard bombs their kids. the kids tho are bad for moral if ya know what I mean.
Originally posted by Eldix
Originally posted by camaro68ss
I have visited ever major battle field in the Europe theater that the USA fought in in WW2. I paid my respects to the fallen US soldiers on that foreign soil. I payed my repects to patton himself at his grave site. I have seen D-day and the beaches, i visted bastone. I have visited ever major battle in the civil war. I study history. my father is the largest privet civil war collector in the united states. Your not the one who know what he is talking about. I feel sorry for you. i have family in iraq now. my family has been in every major battle this country has fought in all the way to the Revolutionary war. dont tell me i dont know anything about war. My family fought in those wars! your just soft and a big talker
People like you make me sick. Just because you've visited a site that has had a war and "paid your respects" to fallen heroes and generals doesn't mean squat. Your family may have fought in those wars, but you have no idea what they are about, and I don't care how many stories gramps told you about his time in the war, you still don't know anything about it. Unless you actually get off your sheltered ass and get into the thick of it, you have no room to talk.
I, on the other hand, have seen war. I've seen things that would make you lose your damn mind if you were put in the same position. You have no idea what lengths the enemy is willing to go to to harm you, because all you've ever known is the soft life of the average American. Based on what you've said, every teenager who's played a Call of Duty game or read Mein Kampf can say he knows about war because he's studied it. NOTHING you could ever read, watch, or listen to could EVER hold up to what war is really about.
You, sir, are the soft one, full of nothing but talk. When you actually go out and watch four of your brothers get blows to bits thirty feet away from you because they didn't have the heart to shoot a small boy with an IED strapped to him, then you can actually talk, until then shut up and stick to what you do know, which is nothing more than half-truths and lies told after everything's been said and done.
I find nothing wrong with threatening rape on a 15 year old TERRORIST. Age does not matter when it comes down to the cold hard facts of life. I myself will now no longer hesitate to put a bullet in a 5 year old, if I knew he was being used as a weapon against me or my brothers, simply because I have been there, I have seen it, and this crap actually happens. When someone is plotting, or is part of a plot, to bring harm to anyone, they are no longer a child, they are no longer innocent.
If I was in that position, I wouldn't have threatened rape, I would have tied the SOB down to a chair and ripped out his fingernails one by one until he gave the location of his co-conspiritors. And I wouldn't stop destroying his body piece by piece, causing as much pain as I possibly could, until I knew I had every scrap of information I could get out of him. Only then would I proceed to place a bullet in his worthless skull. Terrorists deserve no rights, they must be treated like the worthless dogs they are, and until you tree-hugging hippies realize this, we will never be able to ensure the safety of out loved ones and family. I truly wish that the next terrorist attack (and trust me, there will be more and more) hits your house, your community, your family. Then your attitude will be completely different in what "rights" these scum have.
I have lost too many loved ones to these dogs to care about what "rights" anyone else thinks they have. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who takes up for them can join them in their demise. I dare you to approach a real soldier and tell him that these terrorists deserve better treatment than what they're getting. Guarantee he rips your face off and feeds it to you you bastard.
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by Eldix
Has ANYONE read the facts of the case? You have no clue what you are talking about. Google "Omar Khadr." Read what he is accused of doing. Then MAYBE you will be more qualified to respond.
What you would do to this boy would absolutely, 100% create more terrorism. This boy is guilty of nothing, except having a terrible father. But clearly you have no desire to read about him or what this case is all abou. You would much rather rant and rave about completely irrelevant nonsense.
Originally posted by BANANAMONTANA
Originally posted by Eldix
reply to post by BANANAMONTANA
So what would you do, little miss high-and-mighty, if you had a five year old running at you with powerful explosives strapped to his chest? Your post just proves what I have been saying about the average American having no idea what real war is like. Also, I can wish a terrorist attack on someone, because that's obviously what it would take for them to wake up and see the world how it really is, not as the perfect little bubble that the American government has brainwashed them into thinking it is. People are willing to do things that most of you would never even dream of. Just because you've been deluded into living in a fantasy world where everyone acts kindly and has some moral and ethical sense doesn't mean that that's how it is. When you're faced with the decision of either shooting a child or letting numerous people you know and love die, what would you decide? I'm interested in hearing your answer to that.
Sorry I will not be enticed into name calling to fuel delusions.
This thread is about a Judicial ruling and the implications therein.
I believe you presume too much, you have no knowledge of my very real experience of bombs and casualties of “war”.
Unless Sir you are vertically challenged I would suggest you RUN from a “groomed” 5 year old with a bomb strapped to their chest. I would indeed by very interested if you could provide me links regarding the 5 year old suicide bombers and rules of engagement.
The world now has a better view of the “rules of engagement” as interpreted by some servicemen with the aid of Julian Assange.
I am British.
It was a court ruling with no 5 year old suicide bombers in the vicinity.
Originally posted by Reaper2137
BANANAMONTANA, lol... once again. you missed the point. I'm saying both our gov. do the same thing. I'm not fighting with you over weather or not its leagel I'm not I agree with you what I said was for debate sake. to make this a better debate and to get some really good ideals going. I like you not only do you debate well I'm new to this whole thing of doing it online. but you are nice enough to show me what ya got. and sorry if your not a girl. I"d like to think you are. but I was mearlly trying to point out that both of our gov. does the same thing. just yours is better at it. and I'll have to look around but I think obama said some thing about the geneva convetnion not applying to them because their taliban or i could be confusing it with al-qiada either way one of the two.
Nowhere in any of the news articles that I can find on this terrorist does it say that they tried to dismiss charges based on evidence finding him innocent. I am thus forced to conclude that the terrorist is guilty of the charges he faced. I don't know who raised you, but where I come from, throwing grenades at American soldiers, planting land mines, and gathering surveillance for terrorist groups would in fact make you a terrorist.