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Frederick Valentich Update: A real bizarre development

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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 03:17 AM
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And also, it would mean that whoever he was radioing into would have been in on the hoax as well.




posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 04:14 AM
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Given your thread title, I was expecting a 'development' in the story.

There's no question of this incident being a hoax. The guy went up and never came back...facts. In the period before his disappearance, there were numerous UFO sightings including one on the night from another area of Australia. The transcript clearly describes an unknown flying object to ATC. We'll probably never know what happened.

One of the most credible researchers of the UFO phenomena is Dr Richard F Haines. He's actually listened to the tape of Valentich's last message. He's written a report on the incident that offers a way of concluding the case. In the report he identifies witnesses to a UFO from the night. With our new technology and the data of tides and weather from that awful night, he thinks we could plot where the plane would have drifted to...if it had crashed into the sea.


We may never know exactly what happened to Frederick Valentich. Nevertheless, an attempt should be made to locate the airplane. An underwater search should be mounted, despite the 20 years that have elapsed since the event took place.
Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion.

When I was a kid, I thought Valentich was lucky to have been taken by aliens. The idea was exciting. Now I'm older, the idea is pretty damn scary.



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 04:39 AM
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CheapShotArtist.....

First.....

I can assure you the event did not occur anywhere near Pine Gap, as per other members who have also noted that.

Second.....

I personally discussed this case with an Officer from the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) who stated he worked in a RAAF department that looked into this case. I discussed this with him during a period wherein I undertook RAAF Aircrew Officer training & we were training together on the same course. He stated there was more to the story than was made available to the public & he would not tell me anything about that because he was bound by serious RAAF secrecy rules & regulations.

Third.....

I have heard other stories wherein Valentich has been seen in Australia & South America.

Fourth.....

Other witnesses have come forward & claimed to have seen a UFO at approx the same time & location as Valentich's encounter. There is supposed to be a photo available of an object flying out of the ocean at that time & location, but the content of the photo is strongly debated.

Fifth.....

I'm sorry, but I don't like the "looks" of your source. It appears to be a Pravda derived story.


Source: Yuriy Belikov quoting Emil F Bachurin in “Komsomolskaya Pravda”
Moscow January 17 1998


ufoexperiences.blogspot.com...

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 12-8-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 04:43 AM
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Thank you for the reply and the link. Some very good info there. I appreciate it



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 04:45 AM
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Wow, so you have done a little live digging of this very interesting and bizarre event. I am quite jealous really
This is one of my favorite cases.

Thank you very much for sharing MMN. Much appreciated



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:05 AM
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CheapShotArtist.....


Wow, so you have done a little live digging of this very interesting and bizarre event. I am quite jealous really


Yes.....a little digging!



This is one of my favorite cases.


Yes.....mine too!


Thank you very much for sharing MMN. Much appreciated


As always, you are very welcome.

May I also commend to you the relentlessly excellent work of Kandinsky. Every time you see him in one of your threads, you will learn a lot.


Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:18 AM
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Yes this is one of the most compelling cases i can think of. I find pilots story's in flight of UFO's more important than observation on the ground. For one a pilot is more keen to recognize other air craft and the characteristics than the usual observer on the ground. Unsolved Mysteries episode depiction.








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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:20 AM
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hah, thanks for posting that.

I remember that episode



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:25 AM
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The oxygen stealing is something, what is required for our port/new colony ? Lots of oxygen and food.

Why not regen it from environment ? Better to take a bit from earth than regen!.
Now, it provide a good measurement for us, spaceport completion, the infrastructure is done already.

Damn, we just barely export few tanks of O2 to ISS and they take by few spaceships trips! We should charge them.



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:26 AM
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This thread peeked my interest as i very interested in the UFO theory.
I was starting to believe the story until the mention that the Pilot was interested in UFOs himself.

Reading the full source started off ok then took a nose dive for me. This last bit of info says to me Hoax. Read the last part of the source starting from
"case investigated by Spanish researcher Manuel Carballal"

In 1990 the pilot was seen and spoken to in Teneriffe. This is a holiday destination for most people.

If he was captured by a UFO. Why was he allowed to roam around Teneriffe freely. How did he get there and how does he go back and forth to his Captures. Did he contact his parents or the authorities whilst allowed to roam around. Surely if you are being held captive. The first opportunity you get, you break free and alert people. I know i would do this.

This looks like a clear case of the guy faking his death to avoid something back home. Was his background checked out to see if he going to be charged with something or owed money.



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:35 AM
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Thankyou OP for producing this thread and giving myself and others the opportunity to reexplore this fascinating unexplained event that took place some time ago.

Very intriguing...................

During Valentich's final recorded transmission to the Melbourne Service Unit, seventeen seconds of unexplained noise, described as being "metallic, scraping sounds," were recorded by DOT ATC tapes.


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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:42 AM
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Ah yes. The Valentich story. Thank you for posting this OP.



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:43 AM
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The credibility of the article is questionable given it on some random blogspot. Curious to know where the blogger got this from? If someone can find the source so we can confirm the "new development" part of all this that would be great. Basically hearsay and a cool story and nothing more for now.


It reminds me of the many reports of UFO's taking water from lakes and fresh water, bodies of water. The old rumor was the UFO's were taking water to the moon.

ufoexperiences.blogspot.com...



Our basic load from Earth---is liquid oxygen obtained from plants installed onboard the ship. These “researchers” impudently steal the most valuable part of Earthly atmosphere. And idiots like me are actively helping them in this. The main route of our craft—Earth and Jupiter’s satellite Callisto where a huge constantly operating base is located. Oxygen is loaded into balloons made of plastic-metal. Volume can be estimated in weight---the large balloon weighs no less than 110 pounds, the smaller ones—2 times less than that. The maximum quantity of balloons that our ship has taken for one flight to Callisto is more than 12,000 large and 5k small balloons. Imagine how much oxygen they take from Earth! We make 2 flights per week sometimes. God help me and those who find this letter! Russian or Chinese---I ask to give this capsule to the Australian embassy and to the representatives of our embassy, give it to scientists for further study!!!”




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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:00 AM
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Anytime!


And yes, its a very scary story. Quite intriguing really.



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
The credibility of the article is questionable given it on some random blogspot. Curious to know where the blogger got this from? If someone can find the source so we can confirm the "new development" part of all this that would be great. Basically hearsay and a cool story and nothing more for now.


Unknown Soldier.....

As per my earlier post.....

Unfortunately, the source seems to be Pravda:


Source: Yuriy Belikov quoting Emil F Bachurin in “Komsomolskaya Pravda”
Moscow January 17 1998


ufoexperiences.blogspot.com...

Cheers
Maybe...maybe not


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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:01 AM
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Star and Flag!

Just saw this on cracked.com's website yesterday and started reading around it. I am some what of a noob when it comes to UFO cases.

This case is such a great mystery! It's a pity the audio clip has been lost. Here's a link to the cracked article.

www.cracked.com...

PS scraping metal sound at end of audio = pants full of poop!



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:04 AM
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Speaking of, is the audio clip anywhere out there? Can someone post it?



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:06 AM
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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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CheapShotArtist.....

Here is a really interesting thread by OzWeatherman pertaining to this fascinating case:

What Happened to Frederick Valentich? Possibly the scariest UFO case ever

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Thank you once again MMN
I'll certainly dive into that thread.

Much appreciated.

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