‘Variability’ % proves God is the SPECIAL CAUSE, skeptics, why are you ignoring?

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posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by OldThinker

“Wow OT, I never thought about it that way…so are you saying the Bible is true?”

“Yep it is the only mathematical probability.”


Assuming that creationism is a mathematical likelihood, how then do you jump to the assumption that the bible is the accurate truth and not, say, any of the other scores of creation accounts from around the world? Sorry, but the desperation involved in the attempt to validate religious texts as inalienable truth is just becoming more and more droll.



magictales?????????

.com......

come on TD????

Back to the OP my respected foe, oookkkkk?




posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by OldThinker

“Wow OT, I never thought about it that way…so are you saying the Bible is true?”

“Yep it is the only mathematical probability.”


Assuming that creationism is a mathematical likelihood, how then do you jump to the assumption that the bible is the accurate truth and not, say, any of the other scores of creation accounts from around the world? Sorry, but the desperation involved in the attempt to validate religious texts as inalienable truth is just becoming more and more droll.



magictales?????????

.com......

come on TD????

Back to the OP my respected foe, oookkkkk?



Straw man.

Address the point. How does the bible get validated before any other creation story?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Wikipedia's examples of special cause


Special causes

Poor adjustment of equipment
Operator falls asleep
Faulty controllers
Machine malfunction
Computer crashes
Poor batch of raw material
Power surges
High healthcare demand from elderly people
Abnormal traffic (click-fraud) on web ads[4]
Extremely long lab testing turnover time due to switching to a new computer system
Operator absent


Somehow I'm not seeing "the bible is true because only one known planet yet has detectable life forms". Your argument seems to be more a case of special pleading than anything else.



you are really getting some where, you have copied special cause well, that means your are looking around....


step one....OT is glad for you....

the pleading point is a tad desperate tho....



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
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you are really getting some where, you have copied special cause well, that means your are looking around....


step one....OT is glad for you....

the pleading point is a tad desperate tho....


Actually, your entire argument is desperate. And entirely fallacious. You've made some "if-then" jumps that are wholly unsupported



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by OldThinker

“Wow OT, I never thought about it that way…so are you saying the Bible is true?”

“Yep it is the only mathematical probability.”


Assuming that creationism is a mathematical likelihood, how then do you jump to the assumption that the bible is the accurate truth and not, say, any of the other scores of creation accounts from around the world? Sorry, but the desperation involved in the attempt to validate religious texts as inalienable truth is just becoming more and more droll.



magictales?????????

.com......

come on TD????

Back to the OP my respected foe, oookkkkk?




Straw man.

Address the point. How does the bible get validated before any other creation story?
TD, you are very welcome here....

OT's got over 4K posts, most provide ooooodles of evidence....


and over 10K responses.....

ru really SEEKING>>>



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:16 PM
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Address the point. How does the bible get validated before any other creation story?

What other creation story. If you just pick up a Bible and thumb thru it.
You can see the book it self has no match. Unless one looks with a closed mind. God has even made accomadations for that. True Magic. Unseen in the lab.

[edit on 11-8-2010 by randyvs]



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
TD, you are very welcome here....

OT's got over 4K posts, most provide ooooodles of evidence....


and over 10K responses.....

ru really SEEKING>>>




I want you to answer the question. I don't want some website to do your thinking and talking for you. Explain how the bible's creation account is validated by special cause argument rather than any other creation account.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs

What other creation story. If you just pick up a Bible and thumb thru it.
You can see the book it self has no match. Unless one looks with a closed mind. God has even made accomadations for that. True Magic. Unseen in the lab.

[edit on 11-8-2010 by randyvs]


I gave a link with scores of other creation stories. You are aware that other cultures have their own also, not just the Jews, right?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by unfndqlt
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love the concept but,...


Profound!!!!

Why do you love?


Why the BUT?

OT curious



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:25 PM
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oh yes. they may as well be non existent in comparison to the Bible is the point.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:26 PM
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This Universe is part of an "Infinity" machine, there are many Universes along side each other ( Multiverse ), but there are copies of this Universe overlayed on top of each other that are effectively out of phase with each other. They represent consequences of very small change in each that play out the infinite number of possibility...imagine absolutely everything and every combination of anything.

What is this infinity machine you ask ? Our chance to experience a unique perspective of ourselves played out in an environment suited for us to learn the best lesson in our "Soul Development".

How do I know this ? its obvious!



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
 





Address the point. How does the bible get validated before any other creation story?

What other creation story. If you just pick up a Bible and thumb thru it.
.....


The predominant word in your reply....btw randyvs, thank you
is....

IF....



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
......your entire argument is desperate. And entirely fallacious. ...


ENTIRELY?

That is what is called hyperbole friend....

back to OP! ok?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
......I want you to answer the question. I don't want some website to do your thinking and talking for you. Explain how the bible's creation account is validated by special cause argument rather than any other creation account.



ok....


94/6

There!

Please do the MATH


ok?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
There once was ONE planet…

Only ONE….

That contained intelligent life…

This planet is even the focal point of all stars…

If fact, this planet was visited by the creator.

The END!


Did you write this? It's remarkable.
The part about this planet being the focal point of all stars
was a little confusing. I had to read it twice. But then BAMM!!
It picks up and closes with such grace. Thanks for posting.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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No way OT. Thank you indeed.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by nophun



This planet is even the focal point of all stars…

What ?


It is a side-argument....supplement-ism

really...

BUT prove OT wrong..........................




I am just going to ignore most of you're OP, It is just weird and does not make a ton of sense.

Your argument here is. We have not found intelligent life outside Earth, therefore "God did it" ? Humans are "special in some way ?



“You see if RANDOMNESS created intelligent life here, it should create it 94% of the time EVERYWHERE.”


First off no "RANDOMNESS" did not "create" anything. I don't think I am going to bother trying to explain this again.
Just take my word for it .. or read a biology book.

Where and/or who said "it should create it 94% of the time EVERYWHERE." ?
No .. no it should not. You got to explain to my where this number came from.


I get the impression you seem to have no comprehension on just how big the universe is. This argument of yours is not valid, humans have not even started to explore space. The argument will most likely take centuries to be valid because we are not even close to properly searching for ET life out side our solar system, let alone distant galaxies.

To try to put this in prospective ..
We estimate there is hundreds of billions galaxies in the universe.
In our galaxy alone (Milky way) there is 200-400 billion stars.

70 sextillion+ stars in the observable universe alone .. That is 70 with 22 zeros.

Still think we have searched enough to say humans are special ?

Oh yeah some of these galaxies are 10 Billion+ light years aways



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
Snf for you OT

What a great mind you have. You bring proof to so much of the things I already KNOW thru faith. ...



Whew!!!!!!!!!!

I'm trying here....


It just ADDS UP to me....

Here's a vid to to help.... it's only 8 minutes but the athesits will not watch


www.youtube.com...

[edit on 11-8-2010 by OldThinker]



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker

Originally posted by nophun



This planet is even the focal point of all stars…

What ?


It is a side-argument....supplement-ism

really...

BUT prove OT wrong..........................





I think first you have to explain what it means.
In plain English, please.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 10:45 PM
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Thank you mazzroth for pushing the INFINITY concept!








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