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Iran's press t.v. reveals U.S. true agenda...

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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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PressTV is not telling anyone anything: Max Keiser is the one giving the information to PressTV and is the source of information. For some reason there are some people who bash him because he talks about the U.S. economy falling apart by the elite.

Which is happening in America today.




posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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Now I'm so confused!

I previously learned there was no holocaust from press tv but now they are telling me this is another holocaust but a financial one and in America.


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's view on the holocaust, the view that we attribute to Iran, is better explained by the man himself:



I think he makes a lot of sense, in this respect.

Sadly, the American media likes to twist Ahmadinejad's words around to make him appear like the monster they want you to believe he is. For instance, the whole "wipe Israel off the map" remark, attributed to Ahmadinejad. That was a flat out lie, spun on behalf of our so-called "free-press".

What did Ahmadinejad say?


Farsi: "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

Translation: "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

Word by word: Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad ( More..must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).

Words that were not used: Israel, wiped off, map, world, Earth, face.



The western phrase, 'wiped off' or 'wiped out', were not used in the quote, nor was the "state" of Israel. 'Nagsheh', the word for map was not there either.


"The Western media talks of me saying I would like to destroy a nation off the map.But Israel has already destroyed a nation.It is called Palestine" --Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

You see, it can be hard to tell the truth from deceptive tactics when dealing with the American media, which is heavily influenced by both Zionism and the US government. Our best bet is to hear things straight from the horse's mouth and if the two don't wash together, it would be reasonable to conclude that the whole picture painted for us, is nothing but an illusion.

--airspoon

[edit on 12-8-2010 by airspoon]



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 07:14 PM
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I like how you defend him by arguing semantics, when its absolutely clear what is intentions are and what he believes.

He has stated it over and over again.....if he is such a great guy then why the hell was the population there in a complete uproar when he got elected again?

Defend him all you want, set up straw men, argue your semantics.......if our president said ANYTHING like what he said, people would take it for exactly what it was and accuse the US of threatening Iran.......

However when he says it its "all out of context"

Give me a break



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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The population was in an uproar and you know this how? Oh yeah, by watching the MSM, the same entities that have demonized not only Ahmadinejad, but the entire Iranian government. Many people have argued, and quite convincingly, that the whole uproar was Mossad and CIA fueled and funded. Sure, I'm not going to deny that many people protested, however to suggest that the entire population was in an uproar is ridiculous to say the least and their is absolutely no evidence to back it up. All there is, is the MSM and American government telling us it's so. Remember what both of these entities did with Iraq and the lies spun about them?

Why would I believe the MSM on anything they have to say about Iran? It is quite clear to anyone with two brain cells left to rub together, that TPTB is out to demonize Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and eventually take over resource rich Iran, just as they did with Iraq.

Furthermore, it isn't semantics. If you actually researched past CNN, FOX News or MSNBC, you would know that Ahmadinejad never called for any such thing. This is straight from the horse's mouth.

The MSM, Zionist elite and American government would all have us believe that Iran is an anti semitic country with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad leading the way on the hate against Judaism, however they fail to mention the sizable Jewish population in Tehran. In fact, Iran has the largest population of Jews in the Middle East, outside of Israel and this population is doing well. According to these Jews, they aren't oppressed at all and have turned down several lucrative offers to resettle in Israel, even after cash rewards and land grants were offered. TPTB and their media wing also fail to mention that the Iranian government contains Jews in it. Yes, there are Jewish members of the Iranian Parliament.

Basically, the basis of your whole argument, is what you learned from the MSM. LOL.

--airspoon


Edited to add: Just because a few people protested, doesn't mean that someone is an evil dictator. Was not Bush protested? In fact, I think it's safe to say that Bush was more heavily protested than Ahmadinejad.

Furthermore, it is us who has problems with our elections. It is our votes that aren't really counted. It is our government using electronic voting machines with closed source code and whistle blowers blowing the lid off of our corrupted elections. There has been no proof or even credible evidence of anything like it in Iran.

Their votes still count, too bad we can't say the same.



[edit on 12-8-2010 by airspoon]



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 08:32 PM
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What do you mean "you know this how"? By watching the MSM? LOL YEAH by watching the VIDEOS and the TWITTER come through and the FACEBOOK entries

oh not to mention IRANS OWN TV COVERAGE OF IT.......seriously are you living in a box?

You dont recall the mass riots and Iranian military opening fire on protesting civilians? come on man
How do you not know this?

[edit on 12-8-2010 by ManBehindTheMask]



posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 11:17 PM
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This thread was created to show how the elite are destroying America from within. It's not meant to debate political agendas, the holocaust, or other off topic subjects. Please, use the appropriate boards if you want to discuss those matters.

Thank you.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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Sorry as soon as press tv was mentioned i just laughed. here are a few examples of how biased and racist they are

When the egyptian bombings happened they blamed the jews
www.presstv.ir...

They also posted a story about a vulture beign detained in saudia arabia which was apparantly a jewish spy
www.presstv.ir...

They also posted a story claiming the shark attacks in egypt were the works of the evil jews since that story made them look like utter plebs they took it down. you only have to read the comments which are moderated
in advance to see how racist they are. Check the comments to see vile stuff like 'kill all the jews' and god bless hitler. no comments are accepted bad mouthing allah wonder why.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 03:29 AM
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What 25,000 is a large population to you ?



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Amazing the OP posts an interview Max gave for Iranian media and many members literally go NUTS about Iran lolol

INSTEAD of looking at what MAX said !!!! ... H E L L O!

Incidently I clicked the link provided and the article wasnt there???



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:04 AM
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IMPORTANT:


Press TV:
If the US uses the quantitative easing of printing money, do you think they want to get out of this economic downfall or do they want to continue to print the money to basically put the country more into this economic slump to benefit a few? Is that correct?

Keiser:
Yes, it's a domestic terrorist attack on a sub-group; in this case the middle class. If they wanted to bring about a solution, the solution is very easy: Ring fence all the corrupt banks, put all of that bad debt behind a firewall like they did during the savings and loans crises of the 1980s.

The Resolution Trust Corruption ring fenced all the debt and they restarted the economy by creating some new banks. And these new banks were able to get loans and they could create inflation, which would have the effect of stimulating the economy.

That is clearly the way the solution could be offered.
But this is not what's happening.

So clearly we must conclude that the bankers on Wall Street our not doing the obvious solution but the complete opposite of what should be done.

They are increasing the debt load by flooding the market destroying houses, jobs, wages and pensions.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:22 AM
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True members of ATS live by its motto - to deny ignorance, which is why this site is popular and lasted so long.

We must never judge a message by its messenger, but to judge the message, no matter who says it. Research upon it , countercheck with other sources and only then based upon logic and reason can a judgement be passed to reject or to consider.

And what Max had said is most worthy of consideration, if one wishes to take the blue pills no more.

For those who simply said it was from PressTV or from Iran, thus whatever is said to be discarded, then they are not doing justice to the tradition and motto of ATS, sadly, or have alternative sinister hidden motives for doing so.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:08 AM
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The middle class are a threat to any dictatorship.

Being educated and necessary for the economy to progress, they are a political class to be reckoned with. They have wealth and the intelligence to create more wealth. But unfortunately, the top, like any pyramid, can only seat limited numbers of people.

Once this class is disgruntled by the lack of opportunities, being led by the top with no vision for tomorrow except for continued hold to power, disorder will reign. China was the first country to realize this and had so far denied their masses the chance to climb up through deprivation of education, except for their own kind and only the brightest in the land. UK and Europe are beginning to see China's point.

Thus, a systematic culling of the middle class is necessary to cut them down to size, which began in US mere decades back. The Wall Street Casino was one way to steal the wealth of the foolish middle class whom thought it was a way, with their 'mathematical' predictions models, to help them up the rung.

But unfortunately, Wall Street had already covered the angles by their super elites. One phone call is all it takes to move trillions up or down in the market, anywhere in the world, and robbed those foolish dreamers of their hardearned money. Most of those who got burned in the market had always been the middle class, but never the elites.

However, there are still some of the middle classes who do not gamble, and thus a way was needed to cut them down. Every human would want a roof over their heads with privacy. And this weakness was exploited to the full by the bankers.

They offered cheap loans to the middle class to buy homes. Construction loans were made to companies, who paid interest on the loans and then the capital when they sold those homes. The banks lost no money on the loans.

Next the cheap loans. A portion of it was paid up front to the banks. And then when the economy tanks, the banks foreclose on the owners. The owners will be evicted out, and made either bankrupt or have to continue serving the loan while not even allowed to live inside depending on how the loan was structured. Already struggling, these owners will become the new poor, and their kids denied of education, and thus the middle class and a potential threat to TPTB wiped out.

The bank keeps the properties, either to hold it longer so that it can sell at a higher price when the economy booms, or sell outright to their oglichy brothers whom seek to mine the resources below it.

Such form of land thievery had been going on since the 16th century by banks, which is why most banks or bankers owned more land spaces than kings and principalities combined in any nation, and had grown obscenely rich, with powers that can be unchecked, placing them far far above us mere mortals.

If TPTB have their way and is successful, then mankind's progress and evolution will end with this generation and this civilisation. There will be none humans left as violence will be the final solution, and modern day form of violence will end all life on Earth......



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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I most certainly would'nt trust the US Fed Govt if my life depended on it...but knowing the history of Iran and Persia, I would'nt trust them by a mighty long shot either.



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