30,000 line up for housing vouchers, some get rowdy

Crowd waiting for housing vouchers gets rowdy

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A crowd of people hoping to get federal housing assistance became unruly Wednesday morning with reports of fights breaking out in the crowd.

Thousands of people were lined up at the Tri-Cities Plaza shopping center, hoping to apply for a voucher from the East Point Housing Authority that will give them a discount on their rent.

People began lining up at the shopping center two days ago, and by Wednesday morning the crowd had grown to over several thousand people. East Point police, some wearing riot helmets, were patrolling the area. Firefighters and EMTs were attending to people who wer

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[edit on 11-8-2010 by guohua]

OK, This is Really Sad, Think About It, this is only one state and people had started to line up the two days before.
For rent vouchers?

Is this Obama-Economics? Are the Bail Outs Working? Are People Working?
Why do Children need to be put in that situation of nearly being trampled to death?

I know it's Bush's Fault. Not people running our Government for the last 6 years or more.
The Head Lines I seen was:MOB RUSH FOR FED AID DRAWS RIOT POLICE.



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That's funny, I didn't even need to click on the link to know what the pictures would look like. This is sad. Instead of fighting each other, they [we] need to unite and fight those who driving this system to such a need.

It's really sad how we keep hearing of a recovery and many Americans are buying it hook, line and sinker. I have yet to see a recovery or anything that even resembles one, other than in the stock market. This recovery is only a recovery for the elite. The bailouts were obviously only designed to benefit corporate and elite interests, at the expense of the people.

If any of this would have happened 50-100 years ago, a revolution would have already happened. Sadly, the heat has been turned up so slow, that we don't even realize that our pot is now boiling.

--airspoon



[edit on 11-8-2010 by airspoon]

More of the usual governmental incompetence at work. We all know the economy sucks and it's hard to find a job, nevermind a decent paying one. But the banks led the charge to blow housing prices through the roof which has made it nearly impossible to find decent housing at anything near affordable prices. Big cities are the worst, particularly ones that have large amounts of federal workers. Don't ask me why there is correlation, but I know there is.
Much of America will soon look like Detroit. We are going down the tubes fast and we're going to see tent cities springing up like mushrooms after a rainstorm.
Meanwhile the rich get richer....

I have a theory that the few good people keeping the system going by hard work are getting fed up and simply dont care anymore because its gotten so hard on them they are forced into these situations too. That is a huge pride hit because if they are like me and work to live...just to have more taken away because of tough times...and have to resort to doing this to make ends meet...your going to have some serious backlash in the crowds...hard workers forced into this situation vs. the 'free-riders' wanting another hand out.

Good find.

Originally posted by airspoon
That's funny, I didn't even need to click on the link to know what the pictures would look like.

I was tempted to make a similar remark. The only white faces I see there are the men trying to keep people in lines. Have we come very far since emancipation? Pictures like these make me inclined to say no, we just gave slavery a makeover.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals

Originally posted by airspoon
That's funny, I didn't even need to click on the link to know what the pictures would look like.

I was tempted to make a similar remark. The only white faces I see there are the men trying to keep people in lines. Have we come very far since emancipation? Pictures like these make me inclined to say no, we just gave slavery a makeover.

No you have it wrong. It would be slavery if they were the ones working for the roof over everyone elses heads.

Those are the moochers that do not wish to work, and wish to live off of everyone else.

I am not even attempting to claim that some people are not down and out and hard on luck at some point in their lives, but once you get Section 8 housing in Ga., you almost never can be removed, except for certain law violations, it is a lifetime support. They used to have waiting lists, which were up to 8 years. I guess they quit bothering.

If you need Section 8 housing after 8 years, you are either a carreer moocher, or doing something seriously wrong with your life. Either way, how has it become everyone elses responsibility to take care of these peoples' problems. It is not government assistance - it is more like government enablement.

Drive by Section 8 sometime. See the Caddillac's and SUV's in the parking lots, the women with their expensive designer clothing, hair and sculptured nails they get done weekly, men sporting better clothing than I have ever owned chilling out chatting on their expensive cell phones wearing lots of gold chains and watches - all on the government teat. That means paid for by me and my neighbors.

This housing is not really for needy people, it is for greedy people. The true needy people do have nowhere to turn but to their communities and churches, where - IMO - should be where they turn to begin with.

I would go so far as to sum it up nicely, in that no one of those 30k peole that showed up truly *needed* it. These are the carreer moochers. These numbers should be considered staggering.

It should also be an eye opener. This is what government socialism creates. Seems a growing majority of people prefer to live like this - hands out happy to take whatever Uncle Sam is willing to give, screw the rest.

The ones who truly need it wouldn't go. They know they do not stand a fighting chance.

I don't believe that race has anything to do with who is getting these programs, I have seen many white people getting this assistance...
nor are they all "moochers"....
apartments are expensive, and well, ain't no minimum wage job, or anything close to that gonna give you the luxury of having a roof over your head, along with food, the electricity, ect. expecially if there is kids involved.

there's alot of unemployment, and well, many of us that have jobs haven't seen a raise in a year or more....meanwhile the cost of everything keeps on rising. this is the result...more and more people drawing from a dwindling supply of resources.

wonder how much all this costs the taxpayer, ya know, beefed up security while they hand out the applications, the staff to process them, ect......
I bet if someone were to actually take the time to check it out....
they would decide that hey, maybe paying an extra buck for that big mac isn't such an outrageous idea afterall.....
that is, if we weren't all unemployed, underemployed and struggling....
maybe it's just too late now to worry about that one, huh??

The moochers, for those interested, are the ones who took nearly a trillion in TARP funds.

The value of our economy has been sucked dry. That is why these people are hurting.

In my mind, i use the "Mexican Standoff" as an analogy to what is happening. No one trusts the other enough to give even a little. There is o much debt out there that no ones promise is worth a crap. So money isn't moving, except for the payments that you and I are making. But when that money is paid in,and not circulated back out, there is less money in the economy to use.

But banks are getting rich here. Rather, individuals are getting rich as they are able to write off their bad debt rather than taking it in the keister.

Instead, we get to be the ones receiving the keister delivery, as that money isn't coming back out to us once it leaves our hands. it is heading into a black hole. The collapse will happen, but it will be slower. the bailout was a cure, it was risk mitigation. We are still screwed, but it won't be a shock because it will come on slowly as more fuel is fed to the black hole.

The only solution I see is to stop making payments to banks. Quit putting our money into a place that freezes it. Keep it circulating. Of course, busineses would have to be on board....but unless money is circulating (or deflation happens) we will not have enough of it available for everyone to use. Barter and trade will start to be used, i would suspect.

This has always been the problem of having a debt based money system run by a private business. Why does every dollar printed need to be a debt? Why? Ask our great Federal Reserve that question. They get the rewards from it called interest on that debt. It`s all in their favor, not ours. If it was printed by a government OF the people, there would be no debt, or interest attached to it. So, then any money printed to cover such programs like this one, would not come out of the tax payers pocket, other than the cost of printing it. When one thinks about it for a moment, the whole system is a sham. Let`s print the first dollar like this. It has no value as a debt, because there is no other money to pay back that debt with. Now, after you print the next one, and on and on after that, that debt value just keeps on climbing, until you have the market flooded with this debt, and there is not enough dollars to cover the interest on said debt. Because the interest on this keeps growing each time a new batch is printed. So, in order to pay back said interest on this debt, guess what, you need to print more of it, just to pay back that interest. So, more over bearing debt on top of what you have now. The ultimate ponzi scheme.

I don`t understand why people have trouble seeing this. As one member put it so very well, how can we think that we will ever be out of debt, when every dollar printed has debt attached to it from the start? It`s a never ending cycle, that is built like a house of cards. And what happens to that house of cards when the debt becomes to much to pay back? Just like a house that has no real foundation, it falls down when the load becomes to much.

When your taught from birth, that this is the best system in the world, it`s hard for those people to shake those old beliefs off. That is what we are seeing happen in cases such as this one. Sure, there is much greed in some of this, but, it not only is showing in this case, but it has always been this way in the Federal Reserve system. One big massive greed ridden privately oriented system.

So why on earth would we ever want to keep such a system is beyond me.

[edit on 11-8-2010 by FiatLux]

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Man that looked like the million man march!!!
Anyway I digress, they should just turn everyone away, there's no money to put into subsidized housing anyway. Were they on drugs when they decided to schedual this?

This kind of thing is actually non-news here in Atlanta. There are issues like this every time there is a giveaway, job fair, social program sign-up, or Holiday "feed the hungry" program. These stories always disappear very quickly behind the two to three homicides we have here per day.

It's just another day in the ATL.

Nothing brings out the professionals like free money.

Funny how they do not even realize they are slaves.

Slaves to the very government that supposedly is their benefactor.

Oh well, when the money becomes worthless, who are they going to go after?

Lock and load peeps. Defense is the best offense.

Be safe.

there are 18.6 million houses sitting empty in america....
sooner or later people are gonna wise up and just claim themsleves one....

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Squatters rights.

Sounds good to me.

Gonna start looking for an empty house around here.

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the banks have been known to go part way through the repo process, then quit, since well, if they go any further, it's them responsible for any fines that arises from neglected lawns and such not to mention the taxes.. but they go far enough to kick out the people in the homes...
they've already been paid for the house twice, once when they sold the mortgage, chopped it up and turned it into dirivatives, or however that one worked, then again through the bailout...
I just can't see us, as a society having all these boarded up empty houses sitting around and well, tolerating a mass of homeless people....
I don't see how that one is gonna fly, especially since the foreclosure process requires the participation of the sharrif's dept, which is part of the county, which is also getting burned by this scam big time, since there is no property taxes being paid on the homes!

Originally posted by dawnstar
there are 18.6 million houses sitting empty in america....
sooner or later people are gonna wise up and just claim themsleves one....

This will never float because they are all bank owned and banks are very, very, very diligent with their assets, lockboxes on the doors and people checking up from the bank constantly plenty of times to contest you're being in the place and they may call the police first before even letting you know of their presence, and you will go to jail for vandelism, breaking and entering, and criminal nuisance... And don't you beleive the for sale by owner signs, these are usually a LOAD OF CRAP on craigslist and on fron lawns it's something they do so they will get a response and may still even misrepresent themselves, up until you actually decide to purchase then BAM! I am an agent or this is a bank owned home. Therre is tons and tons of misrepresentation out there!!!! BEWARE!!!!

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the house next door to me was empty for awhile, if wasn't a repo. it had a for sale sign on it and sat empty for a good long time. one day, I noticed that the back door was open, and I could see laudry hanging inside the back porch..
I called the realestate company that was on the sign and told them what I saw. it took them a few days to come check it out, and sure enough, someone was staying there. about a week later, the for sale sign came down and the owners of the house were putting up a for rent sign....reasonable rent too! it rented rather quickly. there was a house down the road that sat empty for awhile also, not sure if that was a repo or what, but well, there was someone living in that one also...left quite a big mess by what I hear.

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This is why banks aren`t out a thing, if they take back a house. They now own the value in said house, and IF they can resell it, wow, they can keep on grabbing the interest off of the loan from the new loan. A win win situation for them. Even if the propert value goes down, they aren`t out a dime of money.......they didn`t have the money in the start, it`s created, digital money, but now they have the property value to use for their gain.

wonder how much all this costs the taxpayer, ya know, beefed up security while they hand out the applications, the staff to process them, ect......
I bet if someone were to actually take the time to check it out....
they would decide that hey, maybe paying an extra buck for that big mac isn't such an outrageous idea afterall.....
that is, if we weren't all unemployed, underemployed and struggling....
maybe it's just too late now to worry about that one, huh??

Huh is right, what are you talking about? You are saying MY family should pay taxes so people with no ambition can work a teenagers job or not depending on whether or not they feel like it? I mean poor people with children they WON'T support need free rent, food, childcare and health care. These people live in a large city, I have a really hard time believing that many people just lost their job and their is nothing for them to do.
You also have the nerve to tell me I need to pay extra for a bad attitude when I pull up to the window and the order is wrong, cold, or just messy? Do a good job and you get promoted and that equals more money. I know, I worked fast food as a teenager. Minimal work and/or skills deserve minimal pay. Get over it, that's life. If you are young, healthy, and able to have babies you take care of them and yourself, that was your choice.
GROW UP I am not your momma and I don't want to take care of your responsibilities anymore. I take care of my 4 with no government help. My husband makes $40,000 A YEAR and we are a big family. We have car payments, house payments, insurance and all the other bills everyone else has to pay We make do and I work hard to keep our house running. Get off your butt and take responsibility for yourself.