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posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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Nah, I prefer all conversations to be public. That's kind of the point of the site, right? OK how about this: Tonight, you write one intelligent, thought out reply to ANY of my posts, Let me know, I'll be happy to look at it. Are you only here to critisize? or do you actually have your own intelligent ideas, you feel others should see and contribute to? Just a question. Have not seen it yet.




posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:14 AM
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In the area I live in the majority of"disabled" is ridiculous. The truth is the economy is so bad here, many people have given up and taken the "permanently disabled" route, most of them for mental disability. They all laugh. "It's free momey", I have heard more than once. There are many women here, who are striving for their 4th or 5th child because the original 3 are no longer supporting their lifestyle. Some of these people are aquaintances, I would not consider them friends, because I actively support them and myself by working.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by dreamwalker74
reply to post by Nephi1337
 


Nah, I prefer all conversations to be public. That's kind of the point of the site, right? OK how about this: Tonight, you write one intelligent, thought out reply to ANY of my posts, Let me know, I'll be happy to look at it. Are you only here to critisize? or do you actually have your own intelligent ideas, you feel others should see and contribute to? Just a question. Have not seen it yet.


sheesh MR.walker i told you i keep it simple ,but ill tel you what ill give it some thought and here it is ....The person in the mirror is not you, it is simply a reflection. Just as your words are a reflection of your ideas. Nobody can truly know you, not even yourself. heh i like this thought !



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:17 AM
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very interesting from a pedagogic point of view. same parents, extreme similar social surrounding, but still different developements.
please dont get me wrong on my theory, but i think your sister was more beloved, so she didnt have to be so ambitioned.
to compensate this difference, you tried to be a better human and put in more effort, more dutifulness.
just my theory, there are so much more factors that influence the developement of characters.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:26 AM
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Througout this entire thread, very few have been willing to admit that:

1. Millions of people are milking the system for everything they can get.

2. Those that work, are the beneficiary of these people. They not only have to support themselves, but those who choose not to.

3. There is a political element that, would call my words, "angry", "deceptive" and for that matter "lies", because they are either unable to see the truth, or are doing everything they can to block the facts, and to conceal the truth.

Please, just one logical attack on my post, where I can say "OK" never thought of that!



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:28 AM
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excuse me but this guy is a VERY ARROGANT andfull of himserlf type I can only imagine when his time comes and it will what kind of slobbering b.s. he will come up with in regards to his entitlements ; you my friend are NOT ABOVE falling on your pompous ass keep that in mind all the while you are breating people whom you don't know jacks==== about; yet have formed your heirarchy and opinion as if someone really gives a dam hell I wouldn't give you 50 cents for a dam coke, you are pathetic !enjoy your little shoot off at the typekeys, human beings desrve so much more than your garbage however I really won der do you go into your airheaded full of it b.s. when it comes to obama and how he has raped YOU/



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:31 AM
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Well, many believe that the so-called 'elites' want to 'depopulate' the earth. The reasons supposed are to prevent a possible overpopulation event and because they believe less people (around 500 million) would be easier to manage. Look at UN records, and some documents from the club of rome and the like. Many of the royal families believe this as well.

Why do you think zero population growth is a goal? Why is homosexuality now accepted? Why is sterility a growing problem? Why do the so-called 'elites' usually support wars (other than profit motive for banks and corporations)?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:33 AM
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Good point, Though I think it is more enviromental. She likely learned from her peers, "Why work? The government will take care of you." Whether, on a psychological level, the government was taking over for Mommy and Daddy, is a whole other matter. It points directly at the "entitlement" attitude of the youth. Unfortunately this is not only an issue with the "youth", it extends throughout all age ranges. Therefore it is just as likely for most, that this mindframe was "taught".



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by condition9
excuse me but this guy is a VERY ARROGANT andfull of himserlf type I can only imagine when his time comes and it will what kind of slobbering b.s. he will come up with in regards to his entitlements ; you my friend are NOT ABOVE falling on your pompous ass keep that in mind all the while you are breating people whom you don't know jacks==== about; yet have formed your heirarchy and opinion as if someone really gives a dam hell I wouldn't give you 50 cents for a dam coke, you are pathetic !enjoy your little shoot off at the typekeys, human beings desrve so much more than your garbage however I really won der do you go into your airheaded full of it b.s. when it comes to obama and how he has raped YOU/



my good man that my friend was beautiful !!!!!!!!!!


just keep in mind he gets off on comments like that .. and you get a THANK YOU



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by dreamwalker74
The truth is the economy is so bad here, many people have given up and taken the "permanently disabled" route, most of them for mental disability.


Even more reason to jump all over your politicians throats.

If the economy is so bad people would rather go through the misery and shame of getting themselves labeled disabled just to survive, there is something seriously wrong in this country, and its not the people.

I dont think that suddenly a bunch of people decided they didnt want to work. I think slowly over the last few decades working conditions, job opportunities, pay, etc has been going down hill, and the cost of education, the demand for employees that are already trained (employers dont want to invest in training any more) has been going up.

In the past employers would train you, and treat you fairly well. Now, they want you to invest in your own training, and they pay you poorly and treat you like you are disposable. No wonder people are less motivated.

You want things to change? Petition your government. People did not suddenly, after thousands of years of working hard, evolve into a species who wont work. What happened is that suddenly, in the last few decades, corporations have taken over and changed the rules of the game for workers so thoroughly many cant figure out how to make the system work for them.

Fix the system. The people arent broken. They just want to be treated like people.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:42 AM
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To your reply, I have been rich twice. I have been homeless twice, the last time for two years. NEVER ONCE TOOK ONE PENNY FROM THE GOVERNMENT. Worked small jobs, until I got bigger jobs. Worked fast food, Ice cream, lawn care, wood splitting, freezer repair, plumbing, many retail, and finished in water purification, teaching myself. I came from a very rich, and then very poor family. At one point me, my single mother, and my younger brother, split one hard boiled egg three ways for dinner. Though my mother never took one government penny. Way too proud, and way too hard working. Do not judge me, you have no idea. If I was homeless again tomorrow, I would do just fine, from experience. Then I would own another home in two years, BY WORKING HARD.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:42 AM
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I read you and I do know where you're coming from I have ran into them in my walk of life and I totally enjoyed kicking the s--- out of them too every opportunity I got I will catch up mwith you in a few again I am going to defuse and watch a movie thanks for the reply HE DESERVED IT AND MORE!



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by dreamwalker74
A "thank you", because every one of these social programs, come directly out of our pockets.

Nope, sorry, therefore no thank you for you.
This is the kinda mindset that always destroys western civilization.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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You're right sociallism works so much better every time. Damn it why won't I just conform?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 12:56 AM
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i dont quite get your pessimism or "bitterness".
ok, there are people that work hard for their money, but where is the problem ?
do you ONLY get money for the effort you bring ?
what about compliments, approval, recognition and commendation by the people you work for ?
if your work-place has a shortfall or deficit in rewards, its not the fault of the jobless people.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 01:03 AM
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This is simply a post on "Unfair" taxes. Yes people will come out talking about; military, social security, medicare, and every other social program. The specific one I am addressing is the millions of non-working people who are milking the system, that I am currently forced to support, because I pay taxes by working. Is that not clear enough? I honestly don't know how to make it more clear. Simple statement:

I, as a working American, no longer want to be forced, through taxes, to support the millions who intentionally defraud the system.

Clear enough?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 01:10 AM
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P.S. I guess this is really more than anything a "call out" to modern socialists, for intelligent debate.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 01:12 AM
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I guess more than anything this is a "call out" to modern socialists, for intelligent debate.



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 01:13 AM
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Hey Quran-burning war mongrel.. I thought you were leaving ATS forever. Didn't you make that big "farewell" thread?



posted on Aug, 11 2010 @ 01:18 AM
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ok, i got you.
if you have an accident and need care, should the medical care for you stop if the costs reach the amount you paid into the insurance ?
would you say: "stop, i dont deserve more. any additional treatment would cost hard working americans too much money. just let me die."
???




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