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NEW! Starchild Skull DNA Result..

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Wasn't this skull found in a South American country?
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't inbreeding commonplace within the meso American native tribes?

Why is it more believable that the skull be a hybrid? Why is it not just considered inbred or mutated naturally? Is this because it resembles what people call a "Gray alien"? Beyond initial looks, why the need for DNA testing in the first place?

Was the skull found next to a pictograph telling a story of an alien hybrid, or did some guy find it and say "Oh my God! It's got to be a gray because it's weird looking and I don't know what it is."




posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 08:39 PM
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Since I posted this at the bottom of the last page, I am going to repost this here, and then edit my first posting. I am afraid that it will missed.

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So, this could not be a human?

I would like you to meet your alien...
Warning graphic clip:: Progeria

Sorry man, whoever got you to believe that this skull was from an alien is not sensitive to 'actual human diseases'. It is called Progeria. It is a very rare and serious genetic problem, which starts to affect a 'human' right after birth. There is no cure.

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Section31
Since I posted this at the bottom of the last page, I am going to repost this here, and then edit my first posting. I am afraid that it will missed.

reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE
 

So, this could not be a human?

I would like you to meet your alien...
Warning graphic clip:: Progeria

Sorry man, whoever got you to believe that this skull was from an alien is a fool. It is called Progeria. It is a very rare genetic problem.

[edit on 10-8-2010 by Section31]


Really?
I don't see how you can determine that of all the skulls found this one is a particularly deformed one, especially when ancient drawings and etchings show skulls to be at least this big, and bigger. As well as other skulls of different sizes, including the elongated ones.
I would tend to guess we are finding one of these ancient pre-human skulls, depicted in artwork and cave drawings, and not an isolated aberration of mankind.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 08:54 PM
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How can you leap to the conclusion that there are no aliens? I would love to see your evidence. Unless of course you have evidence that you have traveled to every planetary body in the universe and can actually substantiate your claim with scientific proof.

I will reserve my comments on the "Star Child" until the tests are done and validated by another party.

But IMHO it is absolutely absurd to make such a wild claim without anything to substantiate it.

I happen to know aliens are here, but I will be completely honest when I say that I can't prove it. I also think that for the average open-minded person, they would think the numbers are in favor of alien life somewhere out there.

Whose to say you aren't part alien yourself? How many generations of ancestors can you absolutely confirm are completely human and without any alien manipulation? Maybe you have a bit of "questionable" DNA yourself.

I am not making the claim that you or your ancestors are less than human, but if you are even the slightest bit opened minded to the possibility then there might be hope for you after all.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 08:56 PM
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I did some research on this skull thing before I'm making a post.

Here is what I have to say.

1. That guy is a paranormal researcher.

2. There is no actual and trust-able source that sets its age at 900 years old.

3. Its mitochondrial DNA is human.

4. Its X and Y chromosomes establish the child's parents as humans.

5. There are many diseases that causes skull deformities.

6. Deformities result from mutations. Mutations are almost never repeated in other humans.

We are 99.99% similar to other primates. That means there is a small fraction of 0.01% of our DNA that mutates and phenotypically expresses itself in newer generations.

That fraction of 0.01% can mutate itself so much that it is not even remotely close to previous generation DNA and other human genomes.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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I am seriously leaning on the side of Hutchinson–Gilford progeria syndrome.
Considering head boarding was common place back then in those types of societies, I'd say it turned out to be both these factors combined that led to the child's death. As for the "indisputable DNA evidence" I have yet to see a third party report on this thing which is why most of these types of findings on the internet crash and burn in the real world.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
Really?
I don't see how you can determine that of all the skulls found this one is a particularly deformed one, especially when ancient drawings and etchings show skulls to be at least this big, and bigger. As well as other skulls of different sizes, including the elongated ones.
I would tend to guess we are finding one of these ancient pre-human skulls, depicted in artwork and cave drawings, and not an isolated aberration of mankind.

If I am reading your post correctly, you made the assumption that such deformity could not happen to humans. You are relating this skull to cave drawings, and that is not enough to make a connection.

Source: www.starchildproject.com...

THE STARCHILD SKULL is a unique 900-year-old bone skull found in Mexico in the 1930s.

That is not a pre-human skull.

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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I don't think such a deformity can't happen to humans. I think chances are of you, or anyone finding that particular human skull is minute.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by Section31
 


I don't think such a deformity can't happen to humans. I think chances are of you, or anyone finding that particular human skull is minute.


Here are your skulls:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

You tell me. Look at that video clip of Progeria, and then make a connection between the two. No one is denying that its a rare disease. I even mentioned that in my original posting.

Where is your proof to the otherwise?

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:21 PM
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Extraordinary! When one looks at the DNA from fish to frog to eagle and human, all have the same keys, C,A,T,G. (I'm pretty sure thats how it goes) so if there is something there that should not be, well then, thats quite a game changer for a lot of folks. I think that there's a lot to this, and a lot more to learn. Thank you for bringing this to our attention!



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by OldDragger
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Why do people on here say that a medium like Youtube is not to be taken seriously
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The mere fact you would ask that speaks volumes.
Honestly.


and we're suppose to take everything from the T.V. as 'gospel' and throw the rest of the media (newspaper, books, documents/documentaries etc) out whether or not if it's written or video ??? wow.. !!


"hey.. if it's on CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox.........it MUST BE TRUE..they say it's all true.. so it must be true.. " Pleeeeaseeeeeee.. !!!!

the mere fact that you can't open your mind to the fact that You Tube is just a medium like a newspaper we get the news from iinstead of Fox & Friends tells me your in serious need of better logic .. and afraid of the truth .. or what could be the truth of our reality...



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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Math. Odds. The odds of anyone locating a diseased skull are so small compared to the odds of you finding a "typical skull" from the period in question it is just too incredible, though not impossible.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by DizzyDayDream
erm... did he say at the end of that video "DNA trumps Nature"?

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And to the OP: Top marks for your ambigously misleading thread title...
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As for the skull itself.. id say because of the fact that it so closely resembles a human skull in its fundamental composition, it Is human, or rather Was human-ish.. mutant. If it truly was of alien origin, i think we'd be looking into the eyesockets of an entirely different skull in terms of its physiology, size, shape, proportions, features, and the overall essence of its fundamental composition. But looking at this "star child"skull, i see far too much of a resemblance to Earthly skulls.. not something i would expect from a species which evolved not only on a different planet, but a completely different solar system, perhaps even galaxy. DNA "trumps" nature right (well IMO DNA is Nature, but thats something for an entirely different topic of discussion). So, DNA nurtured in different enviroments in different parts of the universe would have an ENTIRELY different aesthetics, let alone the actual physiological dynamics of its being.

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[edit on 10/8/2010 by DizzyDayDream]


Its physiology, size, shape, proportions, features, and the overall essence of its fundamental composition ARE different. It definitely LOOKS human, I agree, and he states that 253(?) chromosomes are typically found in Earth-form life (humans). This is why he 'hypothesizes' the Starchild was born to a human mother. But what of the 350some-odd zomes? They can not be found in any known DNA found on Earth (so far, and I say so far because we only inhabit the outer layer). From a full DNA sample, scientists can, with such a minute margin for error, tell if it can naturally form from Earth based life. They tell this, not only from all DNA research ever done to all species ever catalogued living today, but from all DNA from the earliest single cell form of it.

I had to throw that 'we only inhabit the outer layer' thing in there. I don't think (have no knowledge of) humans ever populating a subsurface area (sub-crust) for a long enough time for their bones and DNA structure to change dramatically for adaptation purposes in that type of environment, but you never know.

Also with that said, it got me thinking of how many skulls and bones are found deep in caves and scientists theorizing that it must be burial grounds and such. Maybe the humans went underground to hide from something (abductors or whatever) and many stayed down there to die rather than face what they would see if they came up to the surface. And maybe that is why this skull has been kept here and not taken by the abductors (back then) because the pregnant host hid away underground.

Am I rambling? I'm rambling. And I hate it when poster do that. I apologize.

The Temp's thoughts



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Actually LOTS has to be done before anyone in their right mind, certainly not a credible scientist or expert, can even claim that this is 'alien DNA'....who the hell claimed this to the scientific community anyway? I'd like a name and resume please. One must first rule out all probability that it's not a genetic variance or mutation, and countless, no a battery, of tests must be conducted...then we need experts in the field of both anthropology & biology..as well as genetics specialists to inspect that thing more closely. Seems a bit quick to decide to me. Suspect...the source.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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He made a big jump there from it being unknown to alien. If its unknown, then its unknown. Maybe some woman got raised by some now extinct apes and breeded with her for centuries, because she was exotic and stuff to the locals.
Over the Centuries this skull survived.

One skull is not evidence of much really. Its merely an anomoly. The funny thing about anomolies, sometimes they go unexplained and never re-occur turning them into insignificant waste's of time.

Now i am not saying this is true about this very case, but it is entirely possible.

Also, now that i think of it...
How does proving his DNA theory to be true, that its of unknown origin, how does that prove two healthy aliens provided zygotes to a human egg resulting in it having our mitachondrial DNA but alien in origin...it seems like a large leap to me. Perhaps something here on earth is the cause, another race of men maybe or something along that line.

Instead of plugging some alien conspiracy angle, which BTW is meant to sucker in the huge crowd of enthusiast for easy-money, why not give all possibilities a shot at the spotlight.

Actually better yet, ill wait for this proof to come out in the MSM since it will be earth shattering news.

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
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Math. Odds. The odds of anyone locating a diseased skull are so small compared to the odds of you finding a "typical skull" from the period in question it is just too incredible, though not impossible.

I love the odds game.

So, what are the odds of finding a human on Earth with Progeria, and what are the odds of finding an alien skull on Earth? Also, what are the odds that this human deformed skull would be found on a planet where humans live?

Tell us exact prevalence rates, please.
Show us your math, please.

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by css1981
So, if it's just partly alien.... then this is the skull of a hybrid creature.. ?

Anyway, how do they know what is alien ? we don't even know what alien dna looks like do we..



he's stating that we don't have ANY other DNA currently existing on file (human or animal) that can clearly match the DNA of the father so ..it's considered ...

'alien' =2 : differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Section31
Since I posted this at the bottom of the last page, I am going to repost this here, and then edit my first posting. I am afraid that it will missed.

reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE
 

So, this could not be a human?

I would like you to meet your alien...
Warning graphic clip:: Progeria

Sorry man, whoever got you to believe that this skull was from an alien is not sensitive to 'actual human diseases'. It is called Progeria. It is a very rare and serious genetic problem, which starts to affect a 'human' right after birth. There is no cure.

[edit on 10-8-2010 by Section31]


No it is NOT Progeria





posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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we're talking about the DNA.. NOT the shape of the head

2nd line..



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 09:46 PM
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In my opinion this is a human skull of some poor soul that had Progeria as stated by Maybe....Maybe.not and others.

The ET myth is a hoax created to divert attention away from covert special access programs.

All these people that claim ET this and Alien that are just adding more mud to murky waters and are really in the business of separating fools from their money.
Or they are Gov disinfo agents.

Aliens=The New Religion/The Latest Greatest Patsy.



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