Google CEO Schmidt: No Anonymity Is The Future Of Web

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 11:54 AM
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Google CEO Schmidt: No Anonymity Is The Future Of Web


www.networkworld.com

Schmidt's message at the Techonomy Conference was that anonymity is a dangerous thing and governments will demand an end to it.

No anonymity is the future of web in the opinion of Google's CEO Eric Schmidt. He said many creepy things about privacy at the Techonomy Conference. The focus of the conference was how technology is changing and can change society. Schmidt's message was that anonymity is a dangerous thing and governments will demand an end to it.
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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 11:54 AM
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Google CEO is cleverly passing the blame on Government while pushing for no anonymity on the interwebs. Who has to gain more from no anonymity? It's companies like google who uses personal information to horde ads on your face. I don't like where this is going. I love how he tries to make the distinction between anonymity and privacy. I'm very certain that they will be the ones to decide which is which and what it entails and not us the average internet users.

What more this coming from a guy (CEO) who blacklisted CNet for violating CEO's privacy shows his hyprocrisy

Google CEO Eric Schmidt says privacy isn't important, and if you want to keep something private, "maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place" (in other words, "innocent people have nothing to hide.")

Google CEO says privacy doesn't matter. Google blacklists CNet for violating CEO's privacy.

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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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Reading more information regarding it came through a important information. Anonymity is a right

Anonymity is already a right, even when used to defend against the government itself, as part of the first amendment. The supreme court has repeatedly affirmed it:


"Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views . . . Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society.

-McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission"

www.eff.org...


Anonymity/ Free Speech = + 1000
Google = (-) 1000


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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:11 PM
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Google CEO Eric Schmidt says privacy isn't important, and if you want to keep something private, "maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place" (in other words, "innocent people have nothing to hide.")


So I shouldn't take showers anymore?
No more sex?


Man, I hate that type of thinking!
Someone tell this idiot that nobody likes a nosy neighbour



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:12 PM
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Business is pushing hard to erase anonymity. The biggest challenge of marketing online is that you never really know who your potential customers and prospects are. You can target them using behavioral segments but unlike traditional marketing, they're largely unknown. To be able to identify us on the web and connect us to all the real-world behavioral and demographic data available would be a winfall for business. You can be sure they are pushing uber-hard for this.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Awesome. One of the richest men in the world is lobbying the government for something that would benefit his monopolies business model. I think we all know how that usually ends up.

In this case it happens to be one of the last bastions of free speech we have left. Fantastic.

I hope the govt doesn't rape the first amendment for this nutjob.


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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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LMAO @ no anonymity
Google must have lost their minds!!!!

I think google needs to remember that we built the internet;
Google is just a leech, a simple search engine, nothing more;

I hope Google starts charging people money to use Youtube, So we could create another video site and upload our content to there instead....

The only reason google is the top site is because everyone has their homepage set as google;
so every time we open our browsers google pops up;
Its not like google controls the internet;

We have Bing from Microsoft who arent actually power hungry like verizon and google,
Theres also Yahoo and countless other search engines

If Google doesnt get off their high horse and stop acting pompous and treating their users like inferiors then we WILL find another search engine provider....

[edit on 10-8-2010 by SupremeKnowledge]


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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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Mr. Schmidt will probably end up wishing he'd expressed this sentiment anonymously.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:39 PM
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It is true that the internet has been slowly slipping more and more into government control and more and more away from privacy and anonymity. Anonymity is the ultimate form of privacy and it's funny he tries to separate the two, this forum is a good example. Would people post some of their views and have decent open debates if they were not anonymous?

I know i've authored several threads about issues i think are important but i wouldn't even discuss them with friends. Not because i am ashamed of the beliefs but because it is very easy for people to read into what you say and come away with incorrect conclusions. Especially when the subject matter is prone to emotional reactions rather than logical debate.

Anonymity is important, while it's dangerous and can be misused that is the same with anything in this world.

If they try and introduce this system of a static ID then numerous people will try to circumvent it, not because they are criminals or bad people but because they believe freedom is sometimes dependant on anonymity.

[edit on 10-8-2010 by ImaginaryReality1984]



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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While I don't agree with statements like this one....


Google CEO Eric Schmidt says privacy isn't important, and if you want to keep something private, "maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place" (in other words, "innocent people have nothing to hide.")


I also don't think anonymity and privacy are the same thing. And I hope that line can be drawn between the 2. Like I've said in another thread, you wouldn't be allowed to walk into a bank with a ski mask on to "protect your privacy", and you shouldn't be allowed to do the same on the net.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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You guys know what non-anonymity will cause in the real world?
Yes, Child Molesters preying on innocent children who are using the internet.....
There is also ID Theft, Credit Fraud, Blackmail, Extortion, Robberies, Murder!!!

Schmidt has lost his mind and needs to be FIRED asap!!!

If you guys own stock in Google; then you better start selling because the CEO has LOST HIS MIND!!!!!!

I learned in the book "Napoleon Hill - Think and Grow Rich" If you try to take without giving you will fail; and that is what Google's CEO is doing



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posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:00 PM
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The one who controls tptb has always suffered from the delusion of wanting to be like God. Like God, he wants to know as many details as possible about every individual on the planet but unlike God he is innately unable. So he has to use his suckered minions (tptb) to set up a hi-tech tracking grid to obtain as much detail as possible about every person on the planet to give himself a small semblance of Godlike capabilities. What a pathetic loser.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Majic
Mr. Schmidt will probably end up wishing he'd expressed this sentiment anonymously.


You brought massive amount of lol on my face wish I could applaud you.

To defeat google's effort to erase anonymity I think more and more people will either give google a middle finger or start using softwares like Tor.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by EFGuy


Google CEO Eric Schmidt says privacy isn't important, and if you want to keep something private, "maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place" (in other words, "innocent people have nothing to hide.")


That is just a tiny bit of context from what the CEO of Google said during the CNBC documentary "Inside the Mind of Google." If you watch the whole video the question and his entire answer are;

(Question) "People are treating Google like their most trusted friend. Should they be?"

(Schmidt's Answer) "I think judgment matters. If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place, but if you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines including Google do retain this information for some time, and it’s important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act. It is possible that that information could be made available to the authorities."

Also, when answering a question about how powerful Google is with its vast amount of information on a lot of people, Schmidt said, "Protecting user privacy is Google's top priority... We don't use it and we don't misuse it. We could misuse it, but if we did, we would quickly become much less powerful because everyone would flee to our competitors… If we broke our trust with our end users, then they would leave and we wouldn't be very important anymore."

[edit on 10-8-2010 by tooo many pills]



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:17 PM
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Between Ma Bell, Google, and Microsoft, anyone who thinks they have anonymity on the Web is just naive.

Even Tor has been shown to be compromised.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Between Ma Bell, Google, and Microsoft, anyone who thinks they have anonymity on the Web is just naive.

Even Tor has been shown to be compromised.


TOR has been compromised in a few ways however it's better than just surfing without any protection, there are other methods open to making people anonymous online. If anonymity didn't exist then every black hat hacker out there would be in prison right now and the large scale operations against them wouldn't be needed as tracing them would be easy.

Anyone who thinks anonymity on the web isn't possible is just naive



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:35 PM
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me too, I hate hearing people say "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" Anyone who mutters those words should be forced to have cctv set up in every room of their house.

It's classic Goebels propaganda.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:38 PM
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I just have to ask everyone, why do you think MS came up with Windows Cardspace.

Soon you will have to purchase a LICENSE to have access to the internet.

Ask yourself, what use to be free?

They will probably set up a Internet Drivers Licensing bureau. You will have to stand in line for hours, have some 70ish IQ level government pensioned moron test you on PROPER internet etiquette.

They will have internet police giving you tickets for talking back against your overlords. etc etc etc.

I am NOT kidding. My father use to tell me about driving without a license.

WHODATHOUGHT!

[edit on 10-8-2010 by Tyrannyispeace]



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by ModernAcademia
 


me too, I hate hearing people say "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" Anyone who mutters those words should be forced to have cctv set up in every room of their house.

It's classic Goebels propaganda.



Lol that's the exact argument i made in a thread a while back

Nothing to Hide Nothing to Fear? CCTV In Your Home Then!

It's a stupid argument used by stupid people who think it's an end to all debate. They think it will paint those opposing their views as being secret criminals or something like that.



posted on Aug, 10 2010 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Tyrannyispeace
I just have to ask everyone, why do you think MS came up with Windows Cardspace.

Soon you will have to purchase a LICENSE to have access to the internet.

Ask yourself, what use to be free?

They will probably set up a Internet Drivers Licensing bureau. You will have to stand in line for hours, have some 70ish IQ level government pensioned moron test you on PROPER internet etiquette.

They will have internet police giving you tickets for talking back against your overlords. etc etc etc.

I am NOT kidding. My father use to tell me about driving without a license.

WHODATHOUGHT!

[edit on 10-8-2010 by Tyrannyispeace]


Wait?
Are you talking about the internet service provider called "America Online"?
Last I heard; They went out of business...





 
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