How can you support pre emptive military action? The fifth commandment has been broken atleast 12,000 times in Iraq by American forces. And you as a Christian support this?

You follow a religion that promotes peace and denounces violence, yet you advocate war? This is a very selective form of Christianity, a lot like the form President Bush believes in.

War is not always wrong. I'm glad Saddam Hussein is no longer in power. But if you're going to call yourself a Christian shouldn't you live by the teachings of Jesus? It's hypocrasy like this that gives Christianity a bad image.

Originally posted by mwm1331
That or he'd call it "meism"

Nahhh... He probably wouldn't agree with Pauline Christianity, that's the version of christianity which developed to the one we know today.

Very simple. NO. Jesus, at least according to my biblical and historical knowledge, was EXTREMELY unpopular during his time. Look at history - they crucified him between two common criminals! No, he would most defineitely lose. In fact, I can't see him even entering politics. Too many conflicts of interests. I don't think he would support our government either.

Note: I assume this is the real Jesus we are talking about.

If Jesus ran for president, this is how Bush would react ...



[edit on 23-9-2004 by Pisky]

originally posted by curme
If Jesus ran for President, would he win?

Now this is the kind of political debate we need to have more often!!! .

Yeah, he'd win. Just solve world hunger, cure cancer, and you're in

No he wouldnt.

A- He's dead.

B- He teaches love and understanding and forgiveness... concepts that not many people in the USA seem to really understand in this day and age (not not many people understand... most do)

C- He didnt have millions of dollars to fund a campaign.

D- If someone came around now claiming to be the son of god, they'd be locked up.

Originally posted by specialasianX
D- If someone came around now claiming to be the son of god, they'd be locked up.

I'm looking at your avatar saX, are you the son of god?

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

In his lifetime, Jesus did not so much establish a religion as he defined religion as a personal relationship with the Universal Father and established the ultimate challenge in each individual's life as doing the Father's will and declared that we are all brothers and sisters, the children of the Unversal Father.

[edit on 04/9/21 by GradyPhilpott]

Wow. I've rarely seen someone sum up that philosophy so well. I think we might be kindred spirits in this subject.

Originally posted by specialasianX


A- He's dead.

This is either a hypothetical or we are considering his divine omnipotence.

B- He teaches love and understanding and forgiveness... concepts that not many people in the USA seem to really understand in this day and age (not not many people understand... most do)

Nothings really changed in 2000 years.

C- He didnt have millions of dollars to fund a campaign.

Any subsequent visitation is likely to be of a spiritual nature only.

D- If someone came around now claiming to be the son of god, they'd be locked up.

Which is a heck of lot better treatment than he got in the first century.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by specialasianX
D- If someone came around now claiming to be the son of god, they'd be locked up.

I'm looking at your avatar saX, are you the son of god?

No just a distant relation, i think my mums brothers wifes cousins pet dogs ex owner was god or something like that

how can anyone read this & not *bump....?
BUMP

lol

I would have to agree with, um...cant remember now but the person somewhere above methat said jesus was unpopular in his time...so chance of election this time round would zero, zilch and had to really lmao when I also read...the SHARING bit...oh just brilliant

Whether or not you are a Christian, how can you not respect and admire his message? Adopting a personal relationship with God to the betterment of ones life.

Let Me show you the way to a better life.--Jesus for President '08.

Just like Bill was.--Hillary Clinton for President '08.

More of the Same.--Whoever the Republicans choose '08.

Gee...tough choice.

With 80% of the precincts reporting nationwide...CBS feels confident that Jesus will take the White House with approximately 99% of the vote. Democrats are already vowing to fight the results in court in both Florida and Iowa. The Republicans having lost the White House and both houses of Congress have released a statement saying absolutely nothing of importance, except to reiterate it was all Bill Clintons fault.

We prefer our presidents be willing drop the a big "A" bomb on somebody if they get too out of line. We don't necessarily WANT them to do it, but they have to be WILLING to do it. Because that's the only thing some of these jokers in the rest of the world understand.

Originally posted by seagull
Whether or not you are a Christian, how can you not respect and admire his message? Adopting a personal relationship with God to the betterment of ones life.

Well, I'm no Christian, and I think most, if not all, of his message was tripe. There is no God, least of all any we can relate to in any meaningful (as a human) way. I don't want to give up the pleasures of this world for reward in some doubtful afterlife. Turning the other cheek doesn't really work when you're talking about bullets. What else? Feed the poor. Great, except that it just keeps more poor people alive. And so on. I don't dig the dude's message, and for a couple of millennia now what it's mostly done is create a very bad "us" versus "them" mentality, leading to all kinds of wars and strive and torture and death. So there you go.

Are you kidding? The republicans would order an assassination on him the second he showed up. WHy? They are God's party, and if God says different he must be killed!

So Right Wing would hate/kill him for being kind, caring, and liberal.

Left Wing would be worried about his connections to the Bible, even though Jesus never wrote anything in it, and was a Jew, not a Christian. Many would vote for him due to his liberal policies but the congress would be sweating over his plans and agendas.

Middle would probably vote, if they didn't watch Fox News. The ones that do can't be saved, they are already in to deep thinking that not even God is right, the republicans are God's party not God himself.

Yeah I'd vote for Jesus. TOTALLY. But He'd never win .

Of course he wouldn't win.

Jesus, would annoy the hell out of most American's. Let alone do we have the fact of how he speaks, he's probably not white [I'd place good money on that]. However, let's focus on his speeches. A good portion of the United State's sins - gluttony? Envy? Lust? Turn on the television, you see all of this along with the hatred spewed fourth. These people I doubt like to be told what they really are and furthermore, the parables would do your head in.

You then have big business, Jesus I doubt is the fan of porn, hollywood, military industrial complex, etc, etc...we could go on, but they'd take care of him - JFK style.

Well i think he probobley would win as the Jesus i imagine would have no hatred of anyone only love and that is somethyone would want to connect with.