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Originally posted by Conluceo
I find this highly suspicious, in my opinion that's a serious cause for concern to those living around the Gulf of Mexico.
That man shed a lot of light on BP's fraud.
Originally posted by N.of norml
That so many are willing to shrug it off as "another old man dying" is kind of creepy on a site that is supposed to question the "story as told".
FWIW I know personally of 4murders and a car bombing her in the PNW over a fridge full of breast milk headed to an independent lab to confirm forestry toxins contaminating the forest indwellers water and environment.
No link as these things are NOT covered here and any "Matt Simmons who raises a voice is first harrassed by HS and then either neutralized as a "soft kill" with night time over flights of direct spray until too sick to fight or Killed outright as over 1/3 of my former neighbors have been in the last ten yrs.
So yeah ya'll can doubt the reason behind this man's death as natural but isn't it the least bit strange the most noted critic has died NOW? Don't some of you look at the whole picture? Media balckout/brownout, obvious deception on the clean up, magical dissapearing oil, big questions remaining that we are even seeing the correct well on the live feeds,A large handfull of varying stories about the volume and scope of the gusher, and the guy with the most to say about it up and dies.
Granted the pic of him does not look like the picture of robust health and natural causes are likely, HOWEVER, taking it at face value is closing the book on another very real possibility. That he was whacked to shut his mouth.
As I said I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN when little people get too close to hurting a big corp.A mysterious fire the night before the samples were to ship and a family with four children is dead, the fire inspector investigating is dead at the scene inexplicably and the case closed. The person who coordinated the gathering of milk samples had their car bombed and is now in virtual hiding somewhere in the midwest.
Having had this happen in my life makes me say do not be quick to dismiss another scenario that is much darker than an old guy and a heart attack.
As for the info I gave, while it does deserve a post of it's own I am a "soft kill" from the area and fear that changing to a "hard kill" so only will obliquely talk about it.The guy who took my place as mouthpiece is dying right now of liver disease and never drank or drugged his whole life, He and I are on the F/U list for travel by air. IMO ANYONE bucking the system and getting somewhere is a target and their life is the whim of the PTB.
Bible calls them "powers and principalities" I just call them coporations.
Finally the cuop de grace I said I was "soft killed" for making big waves for the timber corps, right? within 3 months of pissing them off first my 21yr old had a "heart attack" and flatlined in front of me but was revived and has largely recovered. In 2 more weeks my 10 yr old son did the same. A week later I seized and had a heat attack at 42. So if I am a bit more suspicious about this you know why.
Any questions for more info about this U2U only, please.
I hope my example of crossing a big corp is helpfull and not a derail of this post
Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
Originally posted by soleprobe
If he had any potential to cause trouble he wouldn’t be on MSNBC or any other corporate controlled news outlet. BP, mainstream press and the federal government are the same entity.
I really do not understand what you are saying.
I watched him repeatedly giving BP bad press. Bad press is bad press.
Name one mainstream news outlet that has not been giving BP any “very very very very bad press.”
How would that negate what I said?
Name one alternative news outlet that has not been giving BP any “very very very very bad press.”
Again, how does that negate what I said?
So if the result of his death gives him more credibility in the minds of the plebes who drink the Kool-Aid provided by MSM, then his death supports and enhances the fear mongering agenda. But in my mind, his death doesn’t give his word any more credibility.
Even if the MSM said they discovered that he had a private super sub that could evade US Navy Special Forces I still wouldn’t believe anything that comes out of that corporate soapbox.
Ah, I see. You are looking for an argument I was not having. I see plenty of other posters in this thread that want to play with you. Go bug them with this crap.
Originally posted by Danbones
Oil Disaster Mysteries
Solved - Simmons Right - Vid
I don't know if all 4 videos have been posted together befor but if not here they are....
and this too: From Rense home page
was Matt Simmons removed because of this?
[edit on 9-8-2010 by Danbones]
Originally posted by Shark_Feeder
I wonder if his death has anything to do with the last story Matt Simmons was pushing?
The basics of what he was contending since july is that BP has not actually capped the well that exploded but rather a secondary well that BP gave up on months ago.
Here is an article convering the "theory".
Land Surveyor Proves Simmons Right: TV well sham.
This site has screen shots showing the BP rov's a great distance from the exploded wellhead, along with instructions on how to check their location yourself. Scroll a bit down the page to have a look see.
What Really Happened
You can have a look at all the ships in the area yourself at Marine Traffic.
The location of the BP wells:
WELL #A (The failed well)
WELL #B (This is where the rig exploded)
You guys think this story might be connected to Simmons death?
Originally posted by zvezdar
IMO a natural death seems a more logical conclusion than any foul play. If he was really a thorn in their side they could have got rid of him ages ago.
From my perspective, a heart attack is entirely consistent with what has been happening with Simmons over the past few months. He made some extraordinary claims, basically staking his reputation on those claims. A reputation he had built up over a long period of time.
However, the evidence suggests that he got it very wrong. The leak is more or less under control, and the bottom kill is likely to be successful (as far as things stand now). These is no evidence for his plumes or a larger, secondary leak. There isnt large volumes of oil washing up everywhere, and this isnt the end of the Gulf of Mexico.
If i had staked everything on some very public claims, and everything pointed to me being wrong (and therefore my reputation ruined), i'd be pretty stressed out. He was probably very stressed out for months now. Combine that with his age, and that he doesnt look in the best of health, and a natural death doesnt look at all out of place here.
I think murder is too long a bow to draw.
There are conflicting reports about the cause of death. Some media cite police reports saying the cause was a heart attack. However, according to WLBZ-TV in Maine, the Knox County Sheriff's Department said Simmons drowned at his house oi North Haven late Sunday night.
Originally posted by misinformational
reply to post by Xcathdra
Perhaps that would be the case with some members of this site.
However, I'm more aligned with the data that is available to me and drawing logically sound conclusions (or even conjecture) from it.
If no reports of foul-play regarding the autopsy nor any reports of Simmons recent active surface that would give credence to his suspicious demise, then I wouldn't continue to give credence to any theory regarding it.
All I'm saying really, is pay attention to the situation. If nothing seems peculiar or out of the ordinary, very well, move along... However, if suspicion continues to mount - Well then, we've already got a thread for it
Originally posted by Seeker63
IMHO, this is just too nice and neat, to have the one credible voice of opposition silenced in the Gulf catastrophy. I fear everything he said and asserted is going to be proven true and what is happening is beyond most people's comprehension. Truth-tellers beware, M./ Simmons, Rest in Peace.