Deleted MIB Story from Wiki (2005)

Hey everyone,

This post contains only supposition so I apologise if anyone is looking for a smoking gun on the subject here.

I remember reading Wikipedia back in 2005, going over all the same things that fascinate me now, when I came across a story in the discussion section of the 'Men in Black' article which seemed pretty far fetched. Recently I went back to see if anything had been added to it and found that it was deleted.

Now deletions in the discussion section of Wiki happen a fair bit so I don't suppose too much of it but there are still plenty of 'silly' elements to the discussion thread that haven't been deleted and so I thought of you guys. I know how you love a good conspiracy theory.

The discussion page is however still in the history of that article which can be found here.

Here's the story:

Hello, I had an extremely frightening experience five years ago that I had no idea what was going on, but when I happened to run across a description of the MIB (which I had never even heard about except for passing references to the Will Smith movie), I suddenly realized this is extremely similar to what I experienced. My mouth dropped open at the similarity.

What happened was, I used to be a postal delivery person in Washington, D.C. One of the buildings I always delivered mail to on my route was this huge building. One day I had paused to eat an apple outside the building, and not seeing a trashcan anywhere, I just threw the core onto the ground. When I walked into the building to deliver the mail, I was angrily confronted by the head security guy who asked me why I was littering. I was a little taken aback and asked him how he knew I had thrown the apple core on the ground. He told me that this whole premises was under video surveillance, including not only all sides of the building but even the grassy areas around it. It was then that I suddenly realized this building had really unusually tight security. Even when I went inside to deposit the mail, the mailroom was open to me, but the rest of the building was inaccessible. I could only go into the mailroom, deposit the mail, and leave. I had to ring a buzzer to be let into the building each time I delivered.

Anyway, about a few weeks later, I was on my way to deliver the mail as usual to the building, and as I was nearing the building, I saw three figures crossing the street on their way towards the building. At first glance I thought they were normal. But as I looked closer I was shocked at how strange they were - they were extremely thin, and they didn't walk by putting one leg in front of the other, but sort of waddled by moving their whole bodies from side to side, lifting one foot off the ground, then the other foot in a sort of whole-body side-to-side waddle. It's hard to explain what I mean, but it was not the way any normal person would walk unless they were unable to move any joint in their legs.

But as strange as this was, this was not what frightened me. What frightened me was that they were absolutely thin. It was like they were as flat as a set of clothes that had been ironed. Their faces and bodies were entirely flat - no contours. The nose did not jut out, nothing. And they were also extremely thin. The best I could describe is if you saw a suit hanging from a clothes hanger, that would be about the same thickness. It was like no thickness at all, just clothes hanging from a hanger. All three were dressed in black suits. They all had black sunglasses.

I saw them walk up, ring the buzzer, and be let into the building. I was absolutely scared sh*tless as I had just been about to enter that very same building. I really wasn't sure what to do, but I kind of steeled myself, and slowly forced myself to ring the buzzer and enter the building, figuring, hey, I might have imagined this, in any case I should force myself to go through my routine until I can think this thing out. When I entered the mailroom, there were like 10 (normal) men standing there, just looking at me. It was really intimidating. They asked me if I had seen anything. I was kind of speechless for a second, not knowing how to respond. And then one of THEM walked right up to me from the side and from slightly behind me. I could tell it was one of the same types of things that I had seen crossing the street. It walked right up to me and I was too afraid to turn my head to the side and look at it. I am being very scared just typing this right now, remembering it. It didn't say anything, it just got right up close to me, and I had a feeling of fear so intense, I felt as if my heart had just frozen and was going to fall out of my body onto the ground. Again, they asked me, "Did you see anything? What did you see?" I just shook my head and stammered, "No, I didn't see anything." Unless they were all retarded there is no way they couldn't have noticed my extreme fright. I thought they might hold me there and not let me go. But finally they said, "Okay, leave now."

And the MIB that was to my side and a little behind me, kind of took a step back to make way, and I had to steel myself, it is the bravest thing I've ever done in my life, to actually walk past it on my way to the door. And I was out of the building.

At the time I had never heard of the MIB, I had no idea what this thing was or what the government was doing. All I knew was that I was dealing with something far more powerful than me. I thought maybe it was some new type of robot and the government was doing test-runs on them, but why that would be done in broad daylight I could not and still do not understand. To give you an understanding of how frightening it was, the first thought that came to my mind was that I needed to leave the country - to find some way to get the h*ll out of the country and go somewhere else - but then it occurred to me that if I started to act strangely, they might get suspicious and kill me or something. I realized the best thing I could do was act as normally as possible and pretend nothing had happened.

Later the next week, my supervisor at the post office told me I had been suddenly reassigned from my old route to a new one, something that was unexpected. He asked me if I had encountered any problems on the route - I think even he may have been a little confused at why I was being reassigned. But I said I had no problems and I was very quiet about it. So eventually I got reassigned. After what I thought was an appropriate amount of time continuing to work at the post office, I quit my job and now I work at an airport. I am telling this story now because five years later I need to get this off my chest. I doubt they will come after me now but if they do, I can't avoid my fate. I've never seen any sort of alien or had any sort of unusual life event of any other kind, nor do I believe that there is such a thing as a devil or demons or anything. So I really don't know what to believe now. There is no doubt whatsoever the building was under the control of the government, with normal human beings. I still think it was some sort of cyborg experiment, and on occasion I still am tempted to just leave the country to get away from all this.

What I'd like to know is if anyone has any further information about this particular tale and does anyone have any ideas as to why this particular piece of prose found it's way into information limbo while other parts such as 'Stranglers "obsessed"' are still there?

Also the person who authored this story used a computer who's IP address has edited a few articles on Sikhism which I find interesting (Demographically).

Thanks in advance for any and all assistance with this.

-m0r

reply to post by m0r1arty


G'day m0r1arty me ol' mate!

That's a nifty story.....well written & entertaining.

Beyond that, I've no idea about the whole MIB thing.

Cheers mate
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Howdy MMN!

I agree it's a nifty story. That's why I remembered it all these years later.

Not sure how they kept their sunglasses on with no nose, but I'm sure there's a explanation for that.

Just hoping that someone can verily verify anything about this tale (Or throw conspiracy shadows around it's deletion).

-m0r

The MIB are another aspect of Ufology that is interesting to me. Depending on who you ask and who you believe, some feel that the MIB are Aliens themselves.

Yet another enigma of Ufology and they always tend to show up when "You know too much about flying saucers"

reply to post by m0r1arty
Hiya M. My BS Detector has taken a massive hit lately and needs a serious service...cognitive dissonance is playing xylophone on my logic bone. Vallee, Kelleher, Knapp and the Skinwalker Ranch. SOBs!


I haven't done a deep search, but the story you linked looks like a 'one-shot' account. Written in one piece and posted anonymously in your wiki and found over here from 2006. Looks like someone did a repost.

The account has the structure of an urban folklore story. It's neat and tidy, no details to track back...no streets, no addresses and no name of building. No names of characters.

It has a good arc and a predictable twist at the end...we just knew his route would be changed didn't we?! I half suspected he'd return later on to find the place abandoned and some kind of 50s billboard on the derelict doors.

Nice work tracking the IP. I've got him whoised down in Carmel. Is it at all possible that Clint Eastwood is behind all this?

reply to post by Kandinsky


Cheers for the Carmel thing!! This means he probably works in Monterey Peninsula airport (If his story has any truth to it).

I'm pretty sure your BS detector is working just fine there Kandy. I've already had many inner monologue chuckles at this story.

But I'm sure those who know better than us evidence based researchers can shed some light on this story. This guy must have told someone who knows someone who went to that conference or something.



-m0r

reply to post by m0r1arty
I thought it was interesting that he posts the story in 4 parts over 3 hours in December 05. He resurfaces in June 06 to make a lot of edits on the Sikh wiki. The reason for most edits being removed and the page ultimately locked was Indians making comments to troll Pakistanis.

The repost I linked is posted a month after he's baiting the Wiki mods.

I'm not buying the story as much as growing an interest in the guy who wrote/posted it. He could be a Sikh. He could be a Hindu Indian. He could be a Pakistani Muslim. He could be a US guy who doesn't like Muslims, Sikhs or Hindus.

The amount of posts he made on the Sikh wiki makes me think he's likely to be Hindu/Muslim/Sikh. Maybe you'll have more luck, I can't seem to find any of his removed edits to get a better idea. I also found out that Ctrl+F doesn't work on IP addresses. Dang!

Is it possible a dynamic IP via a router could result in the coincidence of two separate people happening to edit Wiki? Could the IP have been reassigned 6 months later? Hmmm?

reply to post by Kandinsky


Well, I was bored for a bit and so looked at all the changes to the wiki that that IP address made. It turns out he is called Puneet Singh and gives reasonable small additions to the site and links to articles on Sikhism.com.

Seems a genuine enough Sikh who just wanted to add some quality content that focused on what he felt are important areas of his religion.

So either the IP address in Carmel-by-the-sea is a public computer with only 2 people making changes to Wiki for over a year between 2005 and 2006 without registering or we are looking for a man called Puneet Singh who worked as a mailman in Washington DC before moving to California to work in an airport.

Anyone know of anything that could be of further use here?

-m0r

reply to post by m0r1arty
There's none in Carmel, In. according to this.

ETA: Misread link

[edit on 9-8-2010 by Kandinsky]

The story is bunk. The internal logic is inconsistent. This agency and these beings appear to want to keep their activities a secret, enough to intimidate and interrogate the author. Yet he saw the beings walking around a busy metropolitan area in broad daylight. It makes no sense.

reply to post by DoomsdayRex


You already know my outlook on the subject of Aliens and UFOs DDR. I also reckon the story is bunk - but it's an interesting story which I'd like to debunk officially as it's always been on the backboiler for me to look into.

reply to post by Kandinsky


I've been looking into Carmel-by-the-sea thusfar (my IP lookup got me North of LA) so perhaps I've muddled your results with mine a bit. Still that Pipl website looks like a valuable tool which I'll be using more in the future along with the sites I already use - so cheers!

It's late here so I'll off to bed soon but thanks everyone for your efforts and opinions upon the story so far. It'd be nice if we could completely prove this one wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt if only to show how smart we are for finding it and then disproving it

-m0r