I want to start off this thread by saying I am not jumping to any conclusions, I'm not making any accusations, I'm merely submitting some interesting
information I ran across for discussion...because after all, isn't ATS for the discussion of conspiracy theories? Well this seems like a worthy one to
me. It seems as conspiracy theorists, our inquiring minds must question everything, and so we must be able to question the one very thing we need to
be able to trust most of all. This "ATS conspiracy" isn't all that uncommon, though it's not usually presented like I'll be doing here.
I've been a member here for a while now, and it's only in the last few hours I've become aware of the information I'm about to present, I post this at
the risk of my account being deleted, though I hope it's obvious by my post record I had in no way planned this or known about it before today. I
stumbled across some interesting information whilst doing research for the new ATS Wikipedia page which I've been helping to edit. Whether any of it
is true or not is up to you to decide, I wont make any conclusions, and to be honest I'm not sure what to believe at the moment - but I know one
thing, the deletion of this thread would only confirm the following information. If there's nothing of significance, why does it need to be hidden?
That's a motto I've always believed in.
I first stumbled across this blog post
in which a supposed
Author was discussing how he was censored on ATS, he believed he was hitting "too close to home" with the things he would talk about. I can see why
this might be a taboo subject on ATS, accusing the very staff that help support and nurture an environment of transparency where substance and truth
matters, of secretly scheming to censor those greatest truths we seek. Perhaps there was a legitimate reason to remove his thread, but there are some
things I find rather coincidental. The blogger states some staff members are actually masons, and they have openly stated so, is that true?
In the thread where he was supposedly censored
, it hasn't been closed, but the opening
post, and a few subsequent posts have been removed due to "Meta-tag Spamming"? As a web developer, I know what I meta tag is, and what I don't
understand is how making a post could modify the meta tags, surely you don't think it was some sort of hacking attempt, if so why does he continue
replying to the thread? The posters in the thread don't seem to think what he posted was spamming? Anyhow, I probably would have just left it alone at
this point if I hadn't already had previous concerns over censorship and moderation methods, and if the very last words of response to his thread
weren't the following:
[PERSONAL INFORMATION REMOVED]
Also I would like to point out the following:
...what about this ATS? It actually shocked me a bit...
Soon the term COINTELPRO became part of my vocabulary. It means Counter Intelligence Professionals, and some people were accusing ATS of being a
COINTELPRO operation. I can imagine ATS was going through a very rough time during 07-08 by the looks of what I've been reading. Many people were
claiming ATS was some sort of shadowy agency with ulterior motives at the time. SkepticOverlord made the following thread in response to the
criticism: AboveTopSecret.com is a Government COINTELPRO Disinformation Operation
Obviously the title isn't to be taken literally.
This all seemed to be happening around the time that ATS was really expanding, and commercializing. As seen in
at Project Avalon, Ross Hemsworth seemed rather annoyed to have his show
"evicted by ATS" in way for members such as Robbie Williams, as ATS struck deals with the William Morris Agency and others. In
this ATS thread
a still active member disputes the loss of such a respected member.
Had the "three amigos" finally sold their souls as suggested by this poster? His thread was closed immediately.
That seemed to be the general frame of mind at the time for those who felt betrayed by ATS. The poster of
at RU seems to ask some
very important questions in my opinion, questions I found myself asking at one time in the past. I've presented a fair few links so far, but in order
to properly understand what I've been discussing, you need to read the threads and information I'm providing properly, it's all up for debate at this
stage, I only just learned about this and might be missing key points from one or both sides.
I would like to note, there are many key questions which I pose throughout this post, which if answered properly can "debunk" these crazy stories
about ATS, and ease my doubts about this website. Was this just a forum war, are these posters and supposedly censored members just making it all up?
Perhaps we can have some interesting and civil discussion on it without anything being deleted...I know there are people here who may have some light
to shed on the situation. Also, someone mentioned the last ATS Wikipedia page didn't work because of people who kept messing with it, it wouldn't
happen to be these same people would it?
Edit to remove personal information.
[edit on 9-8-2010 by SkepticOverlord]
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