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Anyone notice the prevalence of rape in movies today?

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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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I don't mind it as part of the story. But I don't want to see it in graphic detail..

There's also a scene where they show Tony Soprano's psychologist is raped in a parking garage. And while it had somewhat of a story line, it's following storyline never really went anywhere or appeared to have an effect on the main story.

The Last House on the Left was a disturbing movie. I could of done without a rape scene that was probably more graphic than porn movies.

the only redeeming quality was watching the rapist get murdered in a slow and horrible way.




posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Miraj
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the only redeeming quality was watching the rapist get murdered in a slow and horrible way.


For many this is how it works out.


For instance in the movie “Day of the Woman” the storyline is about a woman seeking revenge for the guys that raped her. She extracts revenge in some horrible ways using sex to get to them to begin with.
www.imdb.com...

Even in “The hills have eyes” the rapists gets what is coming to them. In many films the rape scene could be implied and understood, but it seems that the days of not witnessing the horror has lost its mark with many. It seems some need to see everything to feel the terror that they are looking for, when often times the imagination could provide a far more terrifying feel. Regardless in many movies, the rape scenes hold a small degree of story line to them and would work just as well if they were simply implied as opposed to viewing.

Even Charles Bronson had rape/revenge movies.
www.imdb.com...



Raist



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:11 PM
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Someone in the thread said the prevalence of movies with rape scenes has not increased. Maybe not, but for me personally, there is a cumulative effect. Now its on many TV shows-- CSI Special Victims Unit... that is basically the theme of the entire series, rape of women and children. It really turns my stomach. I cannot see the sense in it, how it could benefit humanity to bombard us with such themes. We were flipping thru the channels one night to see what was on, and it showed a teenage girl in court detailing her experience. As a woman with a teenage daughter, I find the prevalence of rape themes very disturbing. Children are 'growing up on this stuff' on TV in their own homes, and I fear they could become desensitized in the long run. I just don't buy the whole "if it's part of the story line." It's only part of the story line because some sicko thought of it, dreamed it into being. What if it became really common in story lines to depict racial strife with lynchings and cross burnings? Or really common in story lines to depict women cutting men's penises off as a show of power? Those are vicious, unthinkable horrors that should not be showcased and promoted as 'entertainment' at the movies or on TV. When rape is included as part of the story, I feel the same way. Somebody is writing these stories, I always think, and they are choosing to portray this violent victimization.

I really hope I didn't offend anybody. I am usually not so blunt. The topic hit a nerve. Thank you for letting me vent.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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I see it partly as Directors living out their fantasies and a form of Hollywood social engineering .A form of social normalizing .There are far more titles than in the OP . Halloween the remake is a shocker .The worst I have seen was a Chinatown type Mafia movie starring Dulph Lundgren and Brandon Lee .Were the Yakaza boss catches one of his prostitutes doing something I forget what and rapes her on all fours , while in violent copulation He decapitates Her with a Sameri sword and She begins to convolt and buck back harder against Him all to his pleasure . Now that was graphic and uncalled for . Bloody sick . Forced sex is one thing , but another definition of rape is sex by deciept .Consensual by deciept . If someone gets sex from someone by lieing with the old I think I love you bit and doesn't call again , that too is a form of rape .The woman has a hope and a expectation of a long term healthy relationship and has trusted the other party .That to is rape to me .You see this kind of thing all the time in comedy guy movies where they make bets and stuff . I would even go as far as cheating spouses , again the partner is giving themselves in trust while being decieved .What I describe may not be the legal definition but it is no bloody different mentally and emotionally for the other partner . Women are to be cherished , these women are all somebodies daughters , sister or mothers so we as men need to show a little respect .Hollywood is cashing in on destoying our social fabric by trivializing and or glorifying this garbage by normalizing it and desensitizing it .That's alot of izings but tell me that I'm wrong ?

[edit on 8-8-2010 by 13th Zodiac]



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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its because of this, kids today are 'desensitized' by all the violence on tv, in movies, in books and video games



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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Well my child for one is not growing up on the stuff. I as an adult censor what my child watches so while I might be watching certain movies that are filled with blood or have a rape scene in them my son does not see them. In fact I do not watch such movies while he is in the house, I watch things while he is at school or with his grandma.

The movies that have the scenes are garbage anyway, and to be honest should not be seen to begin with. However, as someone who watches horror movies for entertainment I still see where in many cases it is part of the storyline. Again, as I mentioned the whole thing could be avoided and it could be alluded to that the event took place.

When it is all said and done though it is up to the parent to keep track of what their kids are watching and doing. I understand what you are saying, but in our homes we are in charge of what is watched.

Raist



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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I would say the root cause is parenting, not the media. If parents were not allowing their kids to view the stuff the kids would not be affected by it. Then again, I am not one for blaming media anyway. Each of us makes our choices for the things we do, because of our character. As our character changes so do we, if the character never changes neither do we.

Raist



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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I think that issues such as rape in films is explainable for the following reason, and that is shock factor. Basically, the international film industry is plateauing out and is running out of fresh ideas hence the large number of remakes and 're-boots'. Taboos suchs as rape are incest touched upon to try and shock the audience in the same way that films such as Saw and Hostel use modern special effects to convey their particular bent on ultra-violence. It is nothing new, it is merely our society's further decline into the pit of depravity.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:46 PM
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The op asks anyone notice the prevalence of rape in movies TODAY... yet comprises a list of movies spanning over 50 years lol

There are lots missed off the list aswell... I Have watched many voilent and disturbing movies in my time and it hasn`t affected me one bit.... there are usualy warnings before watching a movie anyway so if u don`t want to see it then don`t watch the movie simple!

there was a movie on last nght called "I spit on your grave" that was originaly banned ........ a woman was gang raped then takes revenge on all who did it.

Should be able to put what u like into a movie as long as there is a warning of content there shouldn`t be a problem.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by discobiskit
Should be able to put what u like into a movie as long as there is a warning of content there should not be a problem.


With respect, does that include pedophilia, beastility, graphic torture? Surely there has to be a line drawn in the sand and that is not that accept unnecessary censorship, merely putting in place a boundary of what is right and what is wrong otherwise the floodgates are wide open for abuse.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Extreme Pilgrim

Originally posted by discobiskit
Should be able to put what u like into a movie as long as there is a warning of content there should not be a problem.


With respect, does that include pedophilia, beastility, graphic torture? Surely there has to be a line drawn in the sand and that is not that accept unnecessary censorship, merely putting in place a boundary of what is right and what is wrong otherwise the floodgates are wide open for abuse.


Don`t be ridiculous! that is just sick there are already laws in place for what can be shown/ released in a movie and they must pass the relavent checks before that movie can be released. So as long as they are within the laws they should be able to put in whatever they like.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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I draw you attention to my opening line which said "With respect". Do NOT call my points ridiculous as they are MY opinions. Respond in kind, not in anger.

The OP was making the point that he felt that the issue of rape was being increased in number in modern cinema releases. You can make issue with his examples but he is correct in that the boundaries are becoming blurred and pushed to the limit.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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for the most part i think it is shock factor. hollywood is trying to see how far they can go and how much they will get away with. did anyone see that movie the strangers? i think that was the name of it. anyway its about a girl who gets raped and almost killed, then her parents meet the people who did it. the parents torture them nonstop to the point of death. it was a terrible movie, and there was like a 30 minute rape scene in there. it was pretty graphic and so ridiculous. its sick. i hate how commercials portray a movie to be completely different than it actually is. either that are the ad gives away the whole movie entirely.

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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 06:34 PM
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OK you've counted the movies with rape in them.

Now please count the movies with death in them, thank you.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by discobiskit
[So as long as they are within the laws they should be able to put in whatever they like.


It is disturbing to me that anyone would like to develop scripts for the world to witness and 'experience' a woman or a child- or a man for that matter- being helplessly victimized though rape. Things that are rated PG-13 once would have been rated R.

I have been an elementary school guidance counselor for a number of years. The statistics have risen on reported cases of child sexual abuse within the last 10 years...


Statistics only come from reporting, so we don’t have accurate, objective numbers. But based on the reports we have, it’s believed that 1 in 3 girls is sexually abused, and a general consensus of 1 in 5 to 1 in 7 boys is sexually abused. ALERT: these are some explicit stories written by men who are speaking out about their own childhood sexual abuse.


It used to be 1 in 5 girls, and 1 in 9 boys.

www.allaboutcounseling.com...

How many perpetrators are inspired to commit more sex crimes after watching scenes of rape? It seems logical that at the very least, they are turned on by it, and considering the prevalence of sexual abuse, there's a large number of them out there, so yeah, they're upping the ratings, thus encouraging the creation of more of the same. The jury is still out (because who can know, really) on whether the bombardment of scenes of sexual abuse can potentially lead to perpetration. I applaud parents (like the earlier post) who monitor what their kids watch, but so many do not. Future victims could be at the mercy of those that do not monitor. This is my opinion. I care. That is all. I just care.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 07:30 PM
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Putting a rape scene into a movie does two things. Firstly, as many have stated before me, it's a fantastic way to get an old sexual fantasy onto film for the writer or director.
Secondly, a rape scene creates a victim and a bad guy, and is a stupidly easy way of hooking the audience in to see the bad guy getting their books. You don't really need to think about creating a plot very hard if all you have is the victim, the bad guy and a slow demise for him. I suppose it evens itself out in the end.

I do tend to stray away from movies with graphic, porn quality rape scenes. I find it uneccesary personally, because there are more inventive ways of showing such a thing while maintaining the dignity of the actors involved and the viewer.

But like I said, who needs inventiveness when a rape story line can write itself?

Also, to the person who stated that children are being brought up on this? Would YOU allow your child to watch something before you yourself have deemed it age appropriate? I know I wouldn't. If it has the highest age rating stamped on it, or even the second highest, I'd like to think common sense would be engaged in judging what a child should be watching. It is the choice of the parent in this case, and not an issue of what movie companies want to include in their feature length money maker.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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I censor my son's viewing content as well. He's ONLY allowed to watch stuff like Spongebob, Phineas and Ferb etc etc. I sdo allow him to watch movies such as lord of the rings with me, so I can explain to him whats going on



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 08:08 PM
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IMO rape is just another violent act added to movies just as murder, child abuse, torture, war, stabbings, beatings, etc. If one wants to avoid all violence in movies you have to be very select. Its Hollywood dramatization and violence sells - its been going on a long time.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 10:46 PM
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yes! the last house on the left was the one i was referring to in my post.it was sick. they tried to make the movie look scary in the commercials but it ended up being a piece of crap



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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Apparently rape is a norm in a lot of Asian films, in particular exploitation films, for many many decades. In Japan it lead to "Pinky Violence" films: where the girls would finally get payback. Kill Bill is an elaborate Pinky Violence film, minus the rape.
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Pinky Violence

The notorious Hong Kong Category III films also feature it extensively.
en.wikipedia.org...
www.beyondhollywood.com...
Rated "R" for them means you might see graphic rape and torture scenes.

These are films whose content goes way beyond what is considered acceptable in the West, and whose sensibilities are often very different indeed. Regularly containing graphic scenes of rape, sexual violence, torture, cannibalism, and just about every perversion imaginable, category III films, distasteful though they may sound, are an integral part of Hong Kong cinema.


It's also in a lot of anime if I'm not mistaken.

So it could be a lot worse over here is the point. Don't get too freaked out.

In fact there's probably no shortage of US exploitation films that feature rape and torture.

The trend to look for would be in films that (1) get larger budgets and (2) theaters that would show such films.

But this trend could also be argued as a rise of exploitation type films. I argue this trend already exists with films by Rob Zombie, Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez as strong evidence of such.

Even exploitation style documentaries are still going strong, with Neo-"Mondo" films such as Bum Fights, Crackheads Gone Wild and plenty of other online documentaries that deal with taboo subjects could be factored in.
en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 9-8-2010 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



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