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Originally posted by SFwife
In the State of NC it cost each tax payer over 50,000 for every illegal birth in the local hospitals .
That kind of stuff adds up
One thing some don't understand ,is that most ppl don't care about ppl coming here legally .There needs to be more security on the border b/c of the terrorist threat .
The National Guard sure isn't up to the job ...they aren't train for it ....period .
[edit on 8-8-2010 by SFwife]
But such estimates are only guesses. Real, hard evidence is denied to the state through the actions of the education bureaucracy, which has taken pains to avoid collecting data on the number of illegal immigrant children.
n fact, in numerous GOP primary races that LSR covered this year, immigration polled as the number one issue – even above that of school finance.
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
Your report includes Americans.
Furthermore, it is one freaking big guess.
Do you even bother to read your own source.
But such estimates are only guesses. Real, hard evidence is denied to the state through the actions of the education bureaucracy, which has taken pains to avoid collecting data on the number of illegal immigrant children.
As for being an issue, it is mainly a GOP pushed issue.
Your source again.
n fact, in numerous GOP primary races that LSR covered this year, immigration polled as the number one issue – even above that of school finance.
Slamming illegals earns votes. Of course, you already know that.
Originally posted by monkeySEEmonkeyDO
Well, if you want to get technical with it... The Natives welcomed us here, and never had any such laws with immigration.. Now, we have laws... So, they should be enforced, and obeyed.
Plus, we 'immigrants' pay taxes, and still get shafted with assistance compared to the ILLEGAL immigrants who pay nothing.
In the book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, amateur historian William M. Osborn sought to tally every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 7,193 people died from atrocities perpetrated by whites, and 9,156 people died
en.wikipedia.org...
Letting them stay in the country illegally also gets votes don't it
It was recently reported that since Obama took office deportations by ICE has all but stopped
PPL need to get off this idea that this is a Dem/R issue ,and drop the whole race card its old ,tired ,and worn OUT ...
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by illusive man
America expanded through wars and buying land from other countries that expanded through war.
Immigrants did it the legal way.
Apples and oranges.
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Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by SFwife
Letting them stay in the country illegally also gets votes don't it
Not really, most latinos vote democrat anyway.
It was recently reported that since Obama took office deportations by ICE has all but stopped
Must be a rumor. ICE took several people from here a few weeks ago. Furthermore, deportations under Obama are at its highest.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
PPL need to get off this idea that this is a Dem/R issue ,and drop the whole race card its old ,tired ,and worn OUT ...
It is an economy issue and the economy is bad. Has a lot to do with politics as well. As for race, I'll leave that for others to decide.
Originally posted by illusive man
Originally posted by monkeySEEmonkeyDO
Well, if you want to get technical with it... The Natives welcomed us here, and never had any such laws with immigration.. Now, we have laws... So, they should be enforced, and obeyed.
Plus, we 'immigrants' pay taxes, and still get shafted with assistance compared to the ILLEGAL immigrants who pay nothing.
they did?
In the book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, amateur historian William M. Osborn sought to tally every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 7,193 people died from atrocities perpetrated by whites, and 9,156 people died
en.wikipedia.org...
open with welcome arms? there are other articles on google on blood baths in America and colonizing the country,
can you define your version of open armed welcome, that doesnt envolve a gun or killing off the natives
Are you going to argue the facts presented, or beat around the bush?
I will just complete put aside the info I have got in conversations with those that work for ICE
He has done extreme damage to this country
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
Are you going to argue the facts presented, or beat around the bush?
You haven't given any facts. Just a bunch of guesses and estimates.
Read your source.
Fact- Those 60,000 babies are American.
Fact- Those 60,000 Babies are entitled to what other Americans are entitled to.
Can't argue with those two facts.
[edit on 8-8-2010 by jam321]
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by SFwife
I will just complete put aside the info I have got in conversations with those that work for ICE
Tell them to give you memos and and other documents you can share with us.
Meantime, incidents like this one from last week are still happening,
He has done extreme damage to this country
He has merely done what Congress has allowed him to do.
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by illusive man
What are you on about?
You can't compare expansion and colonization to criminal immigration.
It is apples and oranges.
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..I there are a lot of Military Fakes on this board ,and well ,its sad ..not calling you one I guess ..seeing as how I know nothing about you ,but yea ...interesting
AND YEA This happen recently also
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
Give you an " a" for being persistent. But you fail to grasp the bigger picture so let me give you some facts.
Once again these kids are American and shouldn't be included on what it cost to educate illegals. The problem isn't the kids. It is immigration reform itself. These children did not make a decision to come over here by themselves. Of course, the immigration issue won't be resolved because many don't want to. It is a gold mine in bad economic times.