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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright


www.dallasnews.com

Still, the debate could resonate in Texas, where not only 1.5 million illegal immigrants are estimated to reside but at least 60,000 babies are added to their households annually.
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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Who needs Amnesty when they can just reproduce in high numbers while in America? Maybe that has been the big plan all along?

www.dallasnews.com
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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Those babies are Americans and as they go up will live as Americans.

What is you problem with Americans?



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:35 PM
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Their parents were NOT legal Americans, so therefore neither are their children. Those children were just born here, they are not Americans. Being American STANDS for something. A lot more than just being born on the territory by a criminal parent.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:35 PM
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My problem is how illegals are abusing the system, and forcing their way into this country without paying state/federal/local taxes. They're demanding medical and education but not paying for it. I guess my only problem is the law, and how it's not being enforced.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Don't be so bigoted. Go read the 14th Amendment and make sure you understand it before coming back to this website.

Those kids are American citizens. Eventually they will be slaves to the machine like the rest of us.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by SunIsSon
reply to post by jam321
 


Their parents were NOT legal Americans, so therefore neither are their children. Those children were just born here, they are not Americans. Being American STANDS for something. A lot more than just being born on the territory by a criminal parent.



Damn straight!
Being an American totally stands for stuff! Like defending the constitution and stuff


All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

www.usconstitution.net...

... oh bugger...



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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Not surprising

Hey maybe in the future one of those children might end up being POTUS ,ya know like Obama



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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This was a rather ironic twist on the whole anchor baby debate.

It's hardly a new issue. Is it the latest talking/marching point or something> Noticed quite a few threads about it popping up here lately.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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Why do people get upset that Mexicans legal or not are having children here in the U.S. While other races do so as well.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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Its not that there Mexican its that there Mexican and illegal, by having a kid in the United States you have just created a American citizen. It would be the same way if Canadians were comming down to the United States. This problem is not going away, only way if we want to stop it is put a couple Army Brigades down there and draw a big line, cross the line puts you in the kill zone.

I am ganna give most Mexican illegals the benefit of the doubt that they just want a better life. I probably would want to do the same thing if I was Mexican in Mexico.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Why do people get upset that Mexicans legal or not are having children here in the U.S. While other races do so as well.



Legal Mexican's also get pissed about this ...
Legals of every race get irritated with the whole situation ,and they aren't bussed in members of Unions there to Protest b/c they are paid .
They are seriously sick of ppl being here illegally ,when they did it the right way ,of course that doesn't sell as well ,and the whole ppl are racist against Mexicans Bs the media sells



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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This law's been on the books forever. It only became an issue because of the sheer numbers of the illegal influx in the past three decades or so. And of course, a point to make in the argument about illegal immigration.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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No one is being bigoted. QQ

The 14th ammendment is being misconstrued from its original intent.


 
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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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Anything is better then suffering in Mexico. From the huge gang war and terrible economy. No wonder numerous Illegals come to the U.S.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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Hey, we have noncitizens in the military.

How many of you are against that?

Noncitizen doesn't mean they are illegal. It just means that they are foreigners. Many of these foreigners have legal visas to live and work here.


The U.S. military services sign up about 8,000 foreign nationals annually, Carr said, and about 29,000 non-citizens serve in the U.S. military today. Non-citizen servicemembers normally possess a State Department-issued green card that authorizes them to live and work in the United States


www.defense.gov...


None of you can prove how many of those babies belong to illegals.

From the ops source


Most of these women are believed to be in the country illegally.


The post above is an opinion not a fact.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:11 PM
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Guess one can say that when it is isn't projecting what they believe.

Does the government recognize these kids as Americans?

That's what counts.

Never been a big issue before, why now?



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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I believe that the question needs to be looked at in a different light.
Here is the question I am asking when it comes to the entire issue of the children of illegale immigrants:
If a woman, who is pregnant, does risky actions that endagers her life and that of her unborn child, is she a fit mother? There are alot of activities that it is stated that if a pregnant woman does, it could put her at risk of losing her child. Everything from hiking long hours in the hot sun, to falls, to other activites. After all if a woman who is pregnant goes to jail, she gives birth, allowed to hold her child and then the child is taken away.
The issue of illegale immigrants and their children is one that needs to be adressed as part of the bigger issue. Now personally here is what I believed and this makes the best sense. If an illegale immigrant or any who comes to this country pregnant, the answer should be no, as part of the trip is dangerous and there is the risk of the lose of the child. However, if the illegale immigrant or any who comes into this country, and then gets pregnant and then gives birth, the answer is yes, as the concern for the child is there on the part of the woman.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Actually, it has been an issue in TX for awhile now, along with said children attending school, illegals in school.

Not mention the strain on social services.


 
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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
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Guess one can say that when it is isn't projecting what they believe.

Does the government recognize these kids as Americans?

That's what counts.

Never been a big issue before, why now?


It's always been an issue, but now it's a serious issue with our own collapsing economy, and how the LEGAL citizens are forking up hard-earned money to support illegals. Facing more inflation (price of food, oil, etc), it would only make sense to kick these people outta here so we can focus on the people who are actually PAYING taxes.






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