Anti-gay homophobes - what country would you choose?, page 1

reply to post by halfoldman

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Not homophobic, but if I was I'd go for the USA as well, San Francisco perhaps, maybe try to educate myself... if not then somewhere deep in the bible-belt, perhaps with the Phelps family.

Originally posted by jokei
reply to post by halfoldman

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Not homophobic, but if I was I'd go for the USA as well, San Francisco perhaps, maybe try to educate myself... if not then somewhere deep in the bible-belt, perhaps with the Phelps family.

i live north of san francisco and i'll tell you it's played out. everyone is either RAVINGLY gay or- i hate to agree with the OP, but...- overtly homo-hating. if you were gay and wanted to be 'happy' (ahem) youd want to move to a small town with a high gay population- like Bisbee Arizona. yuo'd get a lot more attention.

reply to post by halfoldman

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Could I ask that only people interested in the topic reply?
The mods will decide in any case whether the topic stays, goes, or is moved.
Professional topic/thread-killers - please don't tell me it's been done, or use those sub-troll posts to intimidate me.
All on-topic posts are welcome.

I would argue that Enlightenment thinking actually came from the Christian religion, and we owe our Western human rights to Christianity.
If this is not so, then why do we not find post-Enlightenment personal, gender, religious, or gay rights in Muslim countries (for example)?
However, there is a sentiment in Christianity to become prescriptive and fundamentalist.
Exactly what does it prescribe?
Should gays be stoned?
In that case, what is its difference from radical Islam?

Fundamentalists are telling us at once that our sociey is better and more free, but really it should also go back to pre-revolution France.



[edit on 8-8-2010 by halfoldman]

reply to post by halfoldman

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From what I see on ATS, I'd still stick to the US if I had a problem with gays.

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Originally posted by jokei
reply to post by halfoldman

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From what I see on ATS, I'd still stick to the US if I had a problem with gays.

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Are you saying here that US homophobia is somehow more "humane" homophobia?
Are there degrees of sexism, racism and homophobia?

reply to post by halfoldman

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There is no such thing as homophobia! It is a made up term by two gay men who wrote a book and included the word in their book. Even they have been quoted as being surprised as to how this term they made up has taken off.
There is ABSOLUTELY no medical basis for it.

reply to post by rick1

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Could you reference the book, sounds interesting .

I'd say homophobia does exist.
Firstly lets define it?

But what is western homophobia compared to other (non-Western)homophobia?
Is there anybody who would really like all homsosexual people removed from society?

It seems to me a whole bunch of people are finding out for the first that they Can be Homophobic - and what a convenient excuse to run a shabby country!

reply to post by halfoldman

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"Are you saying here that US homophobia is somehow more "humane" homophobia?"

I suppose thatit could be a known quantity and there is a great deal of understanding of the anti agy nuance and culture. For example there are countries where hetero sexual men hold hands (ughh).


"Are there degrees of sexism, racism and homophobia?" well of course they are most of us adults over the age of forty are still deprogramming ourselves from our upbrinings.

Originally posted by Tiger5
reply to post by halfoldman

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"Are you saying here that US homophobia is somehow more "humane" homophobia?"

I suppose thatit could be a known quantity and there is a great deal of understanding of the anti agy nuance and culture. For example there are countries where hetero sexual men hold hands (ughh).


"Are there degrees of sexism, racism and homophobia?" well of course they are most of us adults over the age of forty are still deprogramming ourselves from our upbrinings.

Why are countries where men hold hands "ughh"?
In countries like the US men play contact sports like football and others, rugby?

Here, only the context differs: men touching, and kissing (soccer) from a homosexual act?
Homophobia also means a fear or revulsion of the same sex.
So some men don't like other men touching them.
But in many cultures, in some contexts - that phobia or revulsion is lifted, and even encouraged as fiercely "heterosexual".
So homophobia is political and cultural.

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