reply to post by Sinter Klaas
Against an enemy that has a bigger army with better trained men and much better equipment, the advantage of rough terrain a lot of more money and they
have a number of tricks up their sleeves called Hezbollah, Hamas and every Muslim willing to fight the Jihad by either reinforce Iranian battle power,
terrorist attacks and so on.
Are you suggesting that the Iranian military is better trained and better equipped than the US or other coalition forces? I'd have to disagree with
you on that completely. I've lost track on how many times I've had to tell someone this but to believe that US forces are either less trained or
ill-equipped is ignorance of the military industrial complex's build-up since the end of WWII.
The land, sea, air and space superiority that the US has been building up in the ME since 2001 comprises of a blanket of intelligence spanning from
Israel and out to the Afghan/Pakistani boarder. Any attack on the US or NATO's part is going to be solely sea, air or space based comprising of a
Shock and Awe attack the would put the one from 2003 to shame.
Even if their troops are any good like you said they are, they haven't fought a real enemy since the Iran-Iraq War and since then they only had to
deal with chasing Kurdish Rebels back over the Iraqi boarder. Even during that one war, the Iraqi Army can't be seen as any comparison to the modern
day Marine who's been able to have nearly a decades worth of desert and mountainous combat experience and for the better part of it with the use of
force restrictions more restrictive then that of an American LEO. Even if there are boots on the ground inside Iran they wouldn't be your average
GI's but more likely Special Forces carrying out missions against high priority targets.
If anything, a war with Iran is going to very closely resemble the first Gulf War. We'll go in there, launch tactical strikes on pertinent targets
only and end it with that. Any resistance made by the Iranians against US forces in a neighboring countries would only then warrant possible incursion
into Iran proper.
I also can't wait to see what tricks those tricky Iranians have up their sleeves considering those said groups' contributions would be moot as they
would have to deal with their power base targeted by Israeli air might. I believe that people are getting America's military prowess confused with
how they are conducting themselves. Right now, there is no standing army we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan but an insurgency where the lines
between civilian and combatant are blurred. Now remember back in 2003 the US push to Baghdad? Several weeks coupled with nearly every "highly trained
and experienced" Iraqi Republican Guard surrendering to any Marine troop they encountered and the War was won and the government crumbled. I
certainly remember having a good laugh every morning watching the daily news video of the Iraqi Military guy (whose name escapes me at the moment)
commenting on how well the Iraqi guard is holding back the American forces while we were rolling into Baghdad at the same time.
Now on to Russia and China's "possible" involvement in this theoretical conflict. The short ending is that there will be none from either both or
just one, since both countries have not had the most buddy-buddy relations since forever regardless of their onetime political affiliations. They
still don't see eye to eye on where exactly one's boarder ends and the other begins in Manchuria. The only reason any of them are in Iran is for the
same reason the US is in the ME: resources! But they know that if Iran keeps deciding to run their mouths and angering the big pissed off American
ego, then that will be their problem they'll have to work out on their own.
Russia is incapable now, just like they were during the Cold War to commit to any kind of military operation outside of their own boarders against
another superpower's forces. But Iran is just the least of Russia's worries considering the internal problems oozing from them like an open sore.
Aside from one of the worst fire seasons and the worst heat wave in a 1000 years, their domestic issues such as their broken police system with its
blatant corruption, rampant racial violence against non-Russian ethnic groups, and terrorism on the home front committed by Chechen Rebels. And it
doesn't end there when you take into consideration their international hurdles consisting of their struggling ability to keep a sphere of influence
over their previous territories and a rising diplomatic conflict with Canada concerning how much of the Arctic Circle and it's waterways are theirs.
I don't doubt that Russia can't handle it's own problems, but to come to the aid militarily of a country that's just been postulating and running
it's mouth riling up western superpowers isn't in Russia's interest at all.
As for China, well it's said best with: Three Gorges Dam. There have already been reports concerning the structural integrity way before it's
completion and be it from home grown terrorists or a US/NATO backed Black Ops, if China rears itself in anger toward the US or NATO allies, that dam
IS coming down... But I don't think we'd have to worry about that at all for now. China's a country of business based on manufacturing goods
(albeit of poorer quality). Their main consumer base is the American people. Now please tell me how China would take offensive action against the US
when they know very well that in doing so would be terrible for business. It's not like China's going to lose any of its rights to Iran's resources
if they were to be attacked, so there is no economical reason for them to make any moves against the US militarily.
In the event of a War with Iran, no matter how unlikely it will actually happen, they are going to find that in terms of assistance from world powers
they are very alone. Sure they'll have their supporters of Venezuela and NK and maybe Cuba but all they will be are mice that roar and nothing
BTW to the OP, your avatar has always bugged the [snip] out of me every time I see it, no idea why.
[edit on 8/9/2010 by mistafaz]