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Israeli organ-trafficking ring busted

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:05 AM
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Israeli organ-trafficking ring busted


www.presstv.com

Ukrainian police have smashed an Israeli-run organ-trafficking network illegally recruiting organ donors to send their body parts to Israel.

Ukrainian authorities said on Friday that twelve people, most of them Israelis, were arrested for taking part in a scheme to recruit organ donors from Ukraine and other former Soviet countries via internet and transplant the organs into Israelis who had ordered them in advance.

The network, which sought mostly kidneys, offered as much as USD 10,000 per body part and according to Ukraine's interior ministry most of the organ donors were impoverished
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:05 AM
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It’s hard to imagine anything quite as ruthless in modern crime as illegal organ trafficking. There was a major sensation a year ago when a Swedish news source blew the whistle on this. Since then a Jewish organ trafficking ring based in New Jersey was busted and now this.

Israelis have been accused of not just trafficking, but of actually stealing organs for years, including those of the thousands of Palestinians it kills each year as part of its illegal occupation of Palestine, and given Israel's despicable past. Hundreds of Palestinian children are murdered each year by the IDF; most by head shots or shots to the lower torso that allow their victims linger long enough to be scooped up and taken to Israeli hospitals to have their organs harvested before they die. An investigation into Israel's role in this Megeleian scheme should be started immediately.

www.presstv.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:16 AM
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Less and less surprises me from this selfish spoiled self-serving fascist quasi-state.




posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:34 AM
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you can 'not' generalise whole states or groups of people.
there are differences in crimes committed by different groups yes,
but all groups commit terrible crimes, history is rude, and it is better
to understand the why's of it then to generalize.

many people blame israel for doing the mistakes
they suffered half a century ago.

they suffered by generalization,
now both groups in Israel/Palestina suffer by generalization,
and we blame them,
but make the same mistake again ?
Is it Israel or is it people ? People with a background grouping together ?

a national soul is not a soul independent from the pains
of the individual, and we have a responsibility to understand
why people in defense attack first when they reach
their incapacity to take more. even when their attacks are based
on wrong interpretations of truths. because we are all guilty to that.

Posting this post of stealing organs and using it to connect it to a whole soul
of a full nation is joining the club of blindness
to the individual soul. Is joining the lie of hate.

I know there are differences made between zionists and normal israelis,
but do we know enough of zionism and its parts (human beings) to group an entire group of indiviudals
away, blaming them of not having human souls ?

i just try to make some points;
blaming is a first need to release blame.
but its never bad to TRY to change the blame in understanding.



[edit on 7-8-2010 by pasttheclouds]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:42 AM
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Here we go.....

Another Jewish bash-up thread.

I think I'll head back over to the Aliens & UFOs.....



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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well good bye then if you want to stick your head in the sand



Hopefully this will get lots of press coverage all over the world.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


well good bye then if you want to stick your head in the sand

Hopefully this will get lots of press coverage all over the world.


Fett Pinkus.....

What am I doing again?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
Here we go.....

Another Jewish bash-up thread.

I think I'll head back over to the Aliens & UFOs.....


we are talking about ILLEGAL HUMAN ORGANS TRAFFICKING here..

your post was based on ignorance and you tried to steer this thread off course..shame on you and I hope that you do go back to the ALIENS and UFO threads

whilst on the post...when you consider the fact that the Jewish Religion does not allow transplants they only do this for $$$ which is HORRIBLE



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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Heineken.....

If you read what's been posted already, you'll see that what I said would happen has already happened.

The article will be used to bash Jewish people in general.

All sorts of bullies & head-kickers will jump in here & do that.

I'm not interested in reading that nasty trash.

Regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:03 AM
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Casaline.....

Yours is a duplicate to an existing, earlier thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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you maybe right after all, i can understand your point of view, still I dont accept thread deviation based on bad feelings sorry, human trafficking is a nightmare and quiet common whilst little is being done about it so this thread is something for which humanity has to celebrate, i hope your doing so too



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by heineken
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


you maybe right after all, i can understand your point of view, still I dont accept thread deviation based on bad feelings sorry, human trafficking is a nightmare and quiet common whilst little is being done about it so this thread is something for which humanity has to celebrate, i hope your doing so too


Heineken.....

I agree.....

Human organ trafficking is not acceptable.

Regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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OK, if Israeli's are involved in organ trafficking, we're not supposed to talk about it because they are Jews???

What kind of logic is that?

And what about the victims? Perhaps they too should keep stum because the people who stole their organs were Jews?

Just last week Peres called the British anti-Israeli and in the same interview, called them anti-semitic. Is that kind of generalisation acceptable? Will those who criticise this statement be labelled anti-Israeli or anti-semitic too?

And what of anti-Palestinian statements like those in this video? Netanyahu says.

Netanyahu: "Israel must hit the Palestinians hard 'so the pain is unbearable'... 'the world will say nothing, the world will say we are defending ourselves'...

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs." Begin. 1982

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." Shamir. 1988

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Barak. 2000

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Sharon. 1998

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial." Sharon. 2001

I guess you consider that these generalisations and hate statements about Palestinians are acceptable?

For years Israelis have silenced criticism by bringing up the holocaust and by flinging inflamed accusations of 'anti-semitism', and this is a ploy to avoid frank discussion of the real issues of their own actions and attitudes, which Israel should and must answer for.

ENOUGH of Israel's despicable hatred and hypocrisy.

ENOUGH of Israeli apologists accusing reasonable and justifiable criticism as anti-semitic, ant--Israeli.

And even if I were anti-Israeli - why should Israel want to deny me that right? After all, Israel is anti-Palestine, anti-Iran, anti-Syria, anti-Lebanon

Israel does not rule other people, or their opinions, no matter how much they try to achieve that and no matter how much they wish they did.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:27 AM
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Alternatively, it could also be said that:

The article will be used to bash people in general who are critical of Israel.

All sorts of bullies & head-kickers will jump in here & do that.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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It's very hard to find independent corroboration on this. 90% of the sites I find carrying this story is from neo.nazi sources or other creepy stuff..

But I did find a story on it and it seems to be true.

The facts I could corroborate up to now:

- They're speaking of about 50 victims.

- The victims did get money for the operation; albeit only a small share.

- Most of the victims suffer from serious post-op problems.

- The doctors were not uniformly or predominantly jewish. These were local doctors that were induced to perform illegal operations for extra cash.

- The supposed "head" of the ring is (among other?) an Israeli citizen.

- They are talking about 12 suspects.

I don't exactly see what "jewish" has to do with anything. We all know that - for many reasons - Isreal has a great demand for donor organs. Seems some people decided that this kind of situation was ideal to make some money by #ing other people.

This is a horrible story, but not as horrible as my first impression was. No kidnappings and stuff.. I guess that's an upside. The length that people would go to just to make money sickens me ...

Sad, strange, but deplorably common.


[edit on 7-8-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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Let's be straight here this group of criminals was not linked to Israeli Government so far unlike the previous one so blaming it on Israel on basis of what private citizens is doing is wrong I think. The last scandal did involve Israeli government and we should condemn Israel for it but until there is proof this group is also somehow linked to the government it'll be a mistake to blame Israel for it.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


OK, if Israeli's are involved in organ trafficking, we're not supposed to talk about it because they are Jews???




(Leading) question:

If there was an arrest made somewhere in the world of a US citizen being the head of an organ-harvesting ring ..... Would you be talking about "American organ trafficking?" Or would you say "an American was involved in organ trafficking?"

If the head were of any other country, the country wouldn't be associated with it. I don't see what this has to do with Isael. An Isreali decided to corner an undersupplied market by resorting to criminal activity... Where does "Israel" come in?

Why do I even write this? I'm no fan of these discussion. But there seems to be a trend on ATS that whenever an Isreali Citizen does something criminal or evil it somehow gets associated with his citienship and his religion. That just doesn't make sense to me.
It's like believing the US government when they make a "Taliban Terrorist" out of any and all disgruntled Afghan Farmers. We should be critical of such associations; they have no explanatory merit; most of the times they are driven by a clear-cut agenda.

If prven guilty those idiots should get a severe punishment. I just fail to see how this is anything but a common criminal act.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 10:51 AM
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An earlier thread exists about this topic
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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