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Originally posted by TheIrvy
Originally posted by Neo_Serf
reply to post by TheIrvy
...it follows that within inifinity perfection does exist
OK, with you there, infinity logically should include perfection somewhere.
and the only perfection that can exist is infinity itself because only infinity can be without lacking.
A fire engine is red, therefore a red rose petal must be a fire engine.
We have no concept of perfection or infinity, therefore we have no frame of reference to say anything about the only perfection that can exist.
I'm sorry, what now? You just went weeeellll away from logic and just threw something in there. Our state of imperfection show us that we have chosen to be imperfect? How exactly does it do that?
Logic tells me that I am incomplete. Logic tells me that infinity, by definition, must be, otherwise it would be finite. Therefor if my percived existence is spawed by infinity, which cannot be acted upon, and I, as a finite being, can be, what other conclusion can I come to other than my completeness has chosen for me to be imcomplete? If I make a rat run through a maze with a specific outcome in mind, could not the logical rat deduce that I've made the maze for a purpose?
We chose to be imperfect, to experience good and evil, therefor the question should not be 'why has God done this to us?' but rather 'why have I chosen to experience this?'
We have no hard data on why we are here, no memory of being anywhere before, no way of knowing whether or not we came here voluntarily or against our will. There are philosophies that argue both sides.
Nothing is the opposite of infinity, absolute nothing. You just stuck lack of experience in there because it suits your philosophy, there's no link we can draw between experience and infinity. It's like saying my socks are the opposite of Tuesday.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Neo_Serf
We are born into a dream of separation. We chat endless rubbish to ourselves in our heads, yet is there really more than one of us, who are we talking to?
If you want it to stop, there is a way!
Have you heard of non-duality? It means not two!
I can't even describe how insane the notion of ONE JUDGE UNDERMINING AN ENTIRE STATE'S POPULATION is.