U.S. Considers Push for U.N. Action in Syria

Here we ago again...

As someone else said here some time ago...The US has nuclear weapons, and has used them...

reply to post by AR154

Did you check out the link to the Jordanian situation too? What a crazy one that is too...considering how relations with Jordan have always been. But from what I understand from what some people posted in that thread, a lot of it is a control issue that Israel has...over where the materials come from.

The poll from the Arab nations was pretty interesting too...I think they know their fate if someone in the Middle East other than Israel and their pal the U.S. doesn't level out the playing field, eh?

Let's face it...the only people who seem to be allowed to "play" in the global economy all have nukes. Correlation or coincidence?

(Tossing that out there to see what you all think.)

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
"To fight human spirit?"

There's a lot of people with the power to do things in the world that can be influenced by money and material possession, and then there's people who run on moral obligation to make sacrifices to do the right thing. This divide exists as far as there are humans.

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Ah...thank you for the explanation. That makes a lot more sense now.

On the issue of the Jordanians, Jordan is upset that it's nuclear programme is being attacked and hindred by Israel.

Jordan, having seeked permission from international governments to produce nuclear fuel for use in Jordanian power plants, although not required to have US/EU/UN permission to pursue nuclear development for peaceful purposes, Jordan was seeking to avoid sanctions like those seen on Iran.


Israel lobbied to the US, and the US denied Jordan permission in favour of US interests in Israel, and EU and the UN are expected to follow the US's lead.


Jordan are furious. For years they have been an ally of the US, the Jordanian government and King seen as nothing more than puppets of the West (A dangerous thing to be seen as) and this is how they see they are repayed.

Jordan's King has condemned Israel for it's "underhandness" and I could see Jordan possibly moving closer, at least vocally if nothing else, to Iran on the nuclear programme issue, and the issue of Palestinians, which Jordan's King has been vocal about at times.

Jordan-Israeli relations, although pretty much non-existent anyway, have deteroriated further, and it's needless of me to say that US-Jordanian relations are probably not blossoming at this time either.

As for the control issue that Israel has over Jordan's nuclear programme, those control issues are because Israel is a control freak. It wants to be the only one with a whiff of anything nuclear about it and maintain it's US-backed dominance in the region where being the only nuclear power means it can do anything it likes in the knowledge that it has nukes to back it up with.


On the issue of Global Nuclear weaponry politics, The now retired IAEA chief Mohammed El Baradei has said what I have long said, that nuclear weapons are popular because they deter invasion and are seen as joining an elite club who can be on the global stage and have a voice: The US, UK, Russia, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel.

He compared Saddam's Iraq to North Korea. Saddam did not have nuclear weapons. Saddam is now deposed and dead. North Korea does have nuclear weapons, and Kim is very much alive.

[edit on 9-8-2010 by Regensturm]