reply to post by Copernicus
I completely agree with your observation. There was a time when the expression of theories or conspiracies was what drove the ATS discussion. These
days there is this chat room attitude that comments on matters with no concern for the conspiracy, only concern for the poster and the flags that
thread may generate.
Well, not everything can be proven, but it should not prevent us from sharing our ideas on the subject matter. At present, this lack of communication
on matters important to us all ensures that we miss or fail to keep up with what is going on and or keeps us from considering matters not posted or
turned into threads by ATS members.
Trying to inform ATS about relevant UFO matters lately has gotten to be like some Nuremberg trial where we have to prove everything we think in order
to have a thought or a theory about how something happened or how it might have happened. This point alone is being abused in my opinion.
I no longer post or share my theories like I use to. While I will still help those ATS members that appear to be on to something. For the most part,
these days I try to keep my thoughts to myself and read and contribute to threads that may be relevant to something I may be following or
That is what has changed ATS so drastically. I like others, now frequent other web sites just to be able to "Express" thoughts or ideas about far
fetched UFO matters, because discussing those matters on ATS has become more of a fight to express theories than to allow what I call, "Free
Expression" on matters that cannot be proven by normal chain of custody methodologies.
Well, your posting just made me think just how much I don't share anymore and when I studied why, it is because the Nay Sayers have been elevated to
a level of importance needed for ATS membership while those same Nay Sayers who challenge you and everything you post even if you were to claim we
breathe oxygen for air there would be some idiot who will state that you didn't provide oxygen analysis graphs certified by NASA engineers or some
such nonsense. It is that nonsense that needs to be monitored into check. If not, then ATS will be left to those that could care less about real
If the quest for the truth has been replaced with a fast food web site for threads that aren't really threads as much as links to articles that we
could find on our own. No conspiracy, just a link. Then, there are those threads that are really just questions (?). They should not even be
introduced unless your showing or discussing a conspiracy about it. If it is just a link to news, well I don't need to come here to discuss news
matters, as much as I would like to discuss what if any conspiracy might exist within the article. If there is no conspiracy, then the thread to me
is not what ATS was about when conspiracy and UFO stories use to be introduced as threads.
If someone found an article, suspects a conspiracy and introduces that thread on the basis of sharing and moving certain conspiracies along, then it
keeps the members informed. At present, I personally feel too many don't know what is going on and don't really care unless it helps them get flags
which are more important than the pursuit of a good lead relative to the category of the thread.
Lastly I will close by commenting on a UFO matter that is currently being ignored by the media and ATS. Rather than get into it here, I will provide
a link that actually factually supports my past thread about "Metal bugs" swimming through steel and glowing as if they have some isotope property.
If you follow the link and or do some additional searching you will find that while my thread was too hilarious for many ATS geniuses, it now has
credible evidence to pursue further. I encourage you to visit the link and search out the background that will lead to a UFO located on the bottom of
the gulf with activity being conducted. It will reveal much about more going on in the gulf than we have been told.
Take a look and decide for yourself. As for me, I will update my hilarious theories elsewhere, because as of late, ATS has turned into a shooting
barrel where the pundits like to take shots at those that think differently or actually have a theory of their own to express. It is the non
contributors that that are the problem and I see it clear as day.
Well, I am me and if others want to remain in a fluoridated coma that is their choice, but if ATS does not resume conspiracy and real investigative
discussion, then I can see ATS becoming a real joke. That is a liability I would think ATS would care about, but these days even ATS management has
Take a look at my link and if you follow it it will lead you to a report that is monumental and currently ongoing in the gulf. Since ATS is not
discussing it, to me that just proves what I just wrote about. Follow the lead to the French Submarine (Emeraude) and you will be informed about an
incident that occurred in the Gulf of Mexico on June 16, 2010 involving a naval confrontation over a deadly nano substance that generated a "Omega
alert" and a "Directive 301" filing by French naval officials. Take a look, do some digging and you will not be disappointed unless you want
evidence which no one possess.
This French Sub incident is what is rumored to have justified the movement of US Naval assets to Costa Rica and yet, no media discussion. Then, there
is the Obama Executive order 13457 that is related to this story signed on July 2 and printed on July 8, 2010. Well, you better look and read. We
have more going on in the gulf than we are being informed about. Since it involves UFO's and other alien matters, I would have thought someone by now
would have the story, but alas not yet. Somehow, I am not surprised one bit.
This is why I offer the link and if I have to explain the conspiracy, then you probably don't deserve to know it. Take a serious look at a real
present day conspiracy involving UFO's and all the bells and whistles. You could begin by searching "French Sub Emeraude attacked by US Navy" and
see what comes up. You might want to take a look and glancing reading wont do it. If you don't want to read, then you really don't want to know
and if you don't really want to know, then its your loss not mine.
Anyway thanks for the posting. As for me, I will continue to be me even if I have to go elsewhere to speak my mind about matters that cant be proven,