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Anger mounts over Michelle Obama's 5-day Spanish holiday

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Hemisphere
reply to post by Krzyzmo
 



Vacationing in Spain, I imagine the exchange rate with a failing socialist country is advantageous to say the least. Perhaps she wants her daughter to experience what the US will be like in the coming years.


Maybe you don't know Spain's currency is Euro. Maybe you don't know Spaniards are accustomed to taking vacations several times a year, as the normal period is one month that each one distributes as wanted and/or possible. Spaniards are not starving, not more than Americans do.

I don't know much more about this country, except that it's one (not to say the first one in the world) that has more ancient and modern art in their museums, cathedrals, churches, and so on.




posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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OK I am a die hard conservative republican who would love to find another reason to bash Obama, I just cant find one on this subject. Bush took many vacations, The president has a stressfull job give them a break. Everywere the First family goes cost tens of thousands daily in the united tates they live in a buble. I am not a fan of the Obamas but I will treat him on the same line as the other Presidents.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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More ranting by the anti Obama crowd....Wah....Wah.....Wah !


We often discuss our freedoms or lack thereof here on ATS.

She DOES have a right to travel and according to the article she IS paying her own way for her trip.


We checked with the White House for a price breakdown of the trip, looking for a smoking gun. And honestly, there isn’t one. The bulk of the trip—the hotel stay and all meals—were paid for by the Obamas and their close friends who joined them. “Any additional footprint,” says a White House aide, “including additional rooms needed for security support, falls under the same rules as have applied to any previous first-family travel: the costs are split appropriately, with private expenses paid for privately; government expenses are paid for by the government.”


As far as the support staff is concerned, she hasn't any choice in the matter, for being as who she is, the First Lady. There exists mandatory security protocols which will be adhered to regardless of where she travels.

The other day while the POTUS was visiting the Auto companies in Michigan it was stated that the POTUS isn't even allowed to DRIVE A CAR while holding office as president !

She is a prisoner of sorts, and it isn't as if she would even be allowed to book a flight herself and travel along with her daughter, because of the security risks. So what can she really do ?

Stay at home and play board games with Sasha ?

And just looking at the amount of disdain expressed by many here on ATS for her.

Are you remotely surprised that she chose to vacation abroad in a location where she and her daughter aren't necessarily hated because of their heritage ?




www.newsweek.com...



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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thats harsh,no i dont have a job now either,i was exploited to the max,now i have to leave my family and go to another country to work,for a brigther future,to get them with me,and to stop living in this hell hole. i hope atleast the people of your city are more cultured and inteligent them mine.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795

Do you own her???


Considering we paid for the trip, you may want to use a different argument.

[edit on 7-8-2010 by Double Eights]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 10:13 AM
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Considering we paid for the trip, you may want to use a different argument.


For the 500th time in this thread, we did not pay for this trip. The money came out of the Obama's personal funds taxpayers only paid for security which is completely unavoidable and would have happened anyway.

Really, just wishing something is bad doesn't make it so.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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And her critics will be further annoyed when they learn that the president's wife had a Spanish beach closed off today so that she, her daughter and their entourage could go for a swim.



What makes them so special, there just human beings!!!

[edit on 7-8-2010 by DClairvoyant]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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not quite true
I believe
ospendOdestructOshagO
is paying for Part of the guests only
and whats a tax write off?
Plus whats the big deal she's only had 8 or so taxpayer vacations this year
let her have some fun; it's hard work deciding which superstar to invite to the next whitehouse party!!


[edit on 7-8-2010 by AmericanDaughter]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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Look, can't we talk about something more important??? Like the upcoming seasons on "Survivor" or "American Idol"?



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:00 AM
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I've never heard of a Presidents Wife taking such an extravagant vacation with such a large group of people not including her husband before.

I believe the President (and his family) deserve time off, and vacations, just like the rest of us workers. But this ... this is something else, this is a personal party, an extravagant one at that.. This behavior is not, in my opinion, acceptable.

Unless she wants to pay for it out of her own pocket? (fat chance)



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Haven't the Obama's ever heard of a "Staycation?"

Or are those only applicable to the rest of us peasants?



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Centurionx
Thank you, knowing she paid for the trip out of her own pocket makes all the difference to me. If the American taxpayer was footing the bill then I'd take an issue.

just a note

you don't pay secret service details out of pocket.
They are US Gov. property. So US assets were used.
much less closing off a beach and a tag along of
a party of 40. u can believe this was all out of
the Obama's pocket .......... but it ain't.


she is going to meet the spanish president or someone, that's a gov write off there.

so, airforce 2, ss detail, meet and greet=taxpayer pocket.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Double Eights
 



Considering we paid for the trip, you may want to use a different argument.


For the 500th time in this thread, we did not pay for this trip. The money came out of the Obama's personal funds taxpayers only paid for security which is completely unavoidable and would have happened anyway.

Really, just wishing something is bad doesn't make it so.


ah c'mon...you now expect the republicans to deal with the facts????......they know if they SAY ANYTHING LONG ENOUGH, even if it's not true, they get their slopped-headed, knuckle-dragging base to agree.

by the way, i have republican friends that are embarrassed because of the way the right-wing has been talking about the Obamas. thankfully, only the vocal minority of them believe this crap.

[edit on 7-8-2010 by jimmyx]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by DClairvoyant
reply to post by Krzyzmo
 



And her critics will be further annoyed when they learn that the president's wife had a Spanish beach closed off today so that she, her daughter and their entourage could go for a swim.



What makes them so special, there just human beings!!!

[edit on 7-8-2010 by DClairvoyant]


What makes them so special?

People want to kill them. Probably some in this very thread. And that's not a joke.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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Unless she wants to pay for it out of her own pocket? (fat chance)


Rock, dammit how many times do we have to spell it out for people?

The Faux Scandal of Michelle Obama’s Spain Trip


We checked with the White House for a price breakdown of the trip, looking for a smoking gun. And honestly, there isn’t one. The bulk of the trip—the hotel stay and all meals—were paid for by the Obamas and their close friends who joined them. “Any additional footprint,” says a White House aide, “including additional rooms needed for security support, falls under the same rules as have applied to any previous first-family travel: the costs are split appropriately, with private expenses paid for privately; government expenses are paid for by the government.”


SHE PAID FOR IT HERSELF FROM HER PRIVATE FUNDS! WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?!? WHY CAN'T YOU READ TODAY?

REALLY? WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE? WHY CAN'T YOU READ? YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE FREAKING CAPACITY TO READ WHAT IS IT?



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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Even the "first dog" got no staycation,
he got his very own jet ride to the President on his birthday.
Taxpayers couldn't possibly want the President to be alone on his birthday and should be happy to fire up that lil' ol' jet to go and get the family pet,
it couldn't cost That much .



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
SHE PAID FOR IT HERSELF FROM HER PRIVATE FUNDS! WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?!? WHY CAN'T YOU READ TODAY?

REALLY? WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE? WHY CAN'T YOU READ? YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE FREAKING CAPACITY TO READ WHAT IS IT?


Easy there big fella! I think I see a vein about to burst in your forehead!

But, to address the circumstances...

Even though the trip is privately funded, don't you find it a bit offensive, considering how many of her "subjects", ahem, fellow Americans are struggling financially?

Sure, she deserves a vacation and can afford to take one, but don't you think she should have scaled it back a bit and given the appearance of being sympathetic to our current economic climate?



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Easy there big fella! I think I see a vein about to burst in your forehead!


Sorry, but 12 pages of lies pisses me off.


Even though the trip is privately funded, don't you find it a bit offensive, considering how many of her "subjects", ahem, fellow Americans are struggling financially?


What's the republican adage to use here? "Well if you weren't so damn lazy you would have the money to take European vacations." Isn't that what a conservative would say had the rolls been reversed? "Any one who complained would obviously be a welfare leach who is only interested in getting a free handout from Uncle sucker?"


Sure, she deserves a vacation and can afford to take one, but don't you think she should have scaled it back a bit and given the appearance of being sympathetic to our current economic climate?


What would a conservative say? "So what you want socialism now? Maybe taxpayers should pay for all the unemployed lazy do nothing government leaches to take European vacations? You must be a Marxist! Shes rich so obviously harder working and therefore better than you are, if you weren't just living off the welfare dole you might have a job and could afford to take a vacation too!"

Just taking the republican/conservative perspective on it.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by WTFover
Sure, she deserves a vacation and can afford to take one, but don't you think she should have scaled it back a bit and given the appearance of being sympathetic to our current economic climate?


Maybe she did.


Fact is, no matter HOW much she paid for and no matter HOW much she scaled back, there are going to be whining babies bitching about the Obama's daring to have any fun and spend any money.

Hey, I just bought a BUNCH of stuff and spent thousands of my own dollars to buy these things. THOUSANDS! What's the difference? Why aren't you crying about me setting an example?

People here whine and complain about the Obamas doing something like this and then turn around and preach about freedom, free choice and how you don't want the government in your lives telling you how to live. But when it's YOU telling someone ELSE how to live, all seems to be fair. When it's the first lady's FREEDOM and FREE choice, you all think you have some kind or righteous opinions about how they spend their money??! Bah!

What a bunch of hypocrites! :shk:



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Jazzyguy ... Some factions just don't understand the concept of lines that you should not cross! ...
We understand. This is fully in-bounds.



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