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Anger mounts over Michelle Obama's 5-day Spanish holiday

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Stillalive
hold on man,they cant just stop selling weapons,alot of money comes from this,blood money,but if your hoping to fix the country,you cant start by stopping selling weapons.

I would do just that.
The last thing this world needs
is more arms so they can go kill their
neighbor. I will not be an accessory to
mass murder.

and all that money ur referring to helps
American Citizens how??? Don't say jobs,
as I have already bunked that already by
showing job listings work locations for Raytheon
outside US Borders.

I am NOT saying to hinder gun sales to American
Citizens. If they want to buy guns, then they have
a constitutional right to do so. I am just saying to
halt arms sales outside US Borders.


[edit on 7-8-2010 by boondock-saint]




posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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Er dude you would've just got my vote if I was a Merkin! However you'd have as much chance stayin alive as a bootleggers son in an open top car in Texas, wtf is a book repository anyway, seriously loads of angry oilmen and conflicted loyalties everywhere.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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i dont know if the money from weapons goes to people or the corrupt salesman,but if it goes to the people,maybe fix something else first,or atleast find another way to make money first. but the terorrist will just buy guns from russia with cheaprs prices,and then you loose either way,theyll be armed,and you will have no money



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by Thepreye
reply to post by boondock-saint
 


Er dude you would've just got my vote if I was a Merkin! However you'd have as much chance stayin alive as a bootleggers son in an open top car in Texas, wtf is a book repository anyway, seriously loads of angry oilmen and conflicted loyalties everywhere.

lol
dude, I'm not running for office.
I'm just consulting with Obama
in that post


I'd make a lousy president anyway.
I spend WAAAYYY too much time on ATS.





posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by Stillalive
i dont know if the money from weapons goes to people or the corrupt salesman,but if it goes to the people,maybe fix something else first,or atleast find another way to make money first. but the terorrist will just buy guns from russia with cheaprs prices,and then you loose either way,theyll be armed,and you will have no money

but I could lay my head on my pillow at night
with a clear conscience, knowing that I wasn't
responsible for genocide.

I could care less about the money
from arms sales. It's blood money anyway.
America can survive very well without it
with other goods and services. Everything
created or produced doesn't necessarily have
to be from a war agenda.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by Stillalive
i dont know if the money from weapons goes to people or the corrupt salesman,

it goes to corporations whose sole
purpose is to create war.
And they are greedy b@stards.
It's called the Military Industrial Complex.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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For those of you who believe that this is non-issue... WAKE UP!!! It is EXACTLY the issue! In 18 months this president has taken EIGHT vacations and is planning TWO more before the end of August. That is TEN vacations in 18 months! TEN!!!
Add that to the 41 rounds of golf the President has played and one is left wondering when this guy actually does any work!? Don't give me any bunk about Bush (Who I also despised) who at least had the decency to use Camp David or stay at his ranch. Additionally, Bush played 24 rounds of golf over TWO TERMS!

The problem here is the constant flaunting and preening of this couple - they believe they are royalty. This economy is in tatters and continues its downhill slide. And weekly we are treated to yet ANOTHER Obama vacation all the while we hear Obama talking about the need to tighten our belts. That is nothing short of hypocritical.

I'm not worried though - he will pay for his hypocrisy first this November and again in 2 years. The voters are waking up - well, many of us anyway.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:16 AM
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Reading this thread it strikes me that people have VERY short memories !!!
I'm British, live in the UK and couldn't really give a flying Fig about American politics at all, however I do think that blaming Obama even though he has been in office for 14 months ?? is a little bit NAIVE to say the least...

Good old G W Bush and the Republican extremists are the one's who have really screwed up America, oh and Don't forget Clinton who removed Glass Segall and allowed the banks to just take the piss!!!!!

I DO understand that Michelle Obama is just plain stupid to do what see has done, going to Spain on a 'Jolly' with her mates at the US taxpayers expenses......... I mean that is just Ignorant especially when you consider the state of some American families.... She's living her dream whilst others are living a nightmare !!!!! BIT UNEQUAL me thinks......

BUT the figures at the start of this thread indicate that sooner or later the Piper HAS TO BE PAID and that the American / Western economies have to realise that they are unaffordable and living on life support --- a change has to come and it will hurt us ALL including Michelle Obama..


BUT DO NOT FORGET

MR Bush and MR CLinton are your CAUSES not Obama, he's the one picking up the peices and wondering what to do with them !!!!


Oh and that F*****G Clinton wedding - $3 million --- come on get real.......I want the biggest wedding in the world because ........... POINTLESS and DISTASTEFUL.. there will be a settlement for millions in a few years and Don't say I told you so........



Regards

PurpleDOG UK



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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Look,

You are supposed to know about it. You are supposed to get angry. - and - You have no recourse. You are to sit there and take it. Watch the elite on TV take a holiday while you struggle to feed your children. Watch MTV cribs to see the lifestyle you will never have. Watch someone else play with a ball for a million. And obey your rightfully-ordained-by-bloodline-to-rule leaders. Get used to it. This is yet more of your conditioning to be spit upon figurativly and sit there and take it. You can yell and scream, but in the end, you get it. (no pun intended.. or maybe pun intended.. yes..) because you don't matter. You are nothing. Understand? What you gonna do? Huh? Bark little dog. -- well thats how they see I think.. I could be wrong.. RDDS



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo
For those of you who believe that this is non-issue... WAKE UP!!! It is EXACTLY the issue! In 18 months this president has taken EIGHT vacations and is planning TWO more before the end of August. That is TEN vacations in 18 months!


These 'vacations' are what you and I usually call 'weekends'. We usually get 4 a month, however as you pointed out, 5-6 a year are being squandered on our president. They last from Saturday to Sunday and take place away from the office, however everybody you work with are there with their briefcases in case something in the world blows up before Monday.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:39 AM
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your still forgetting that your "poor" americans are rich guys in my country,theyr care free and brainwashed sheep. i was into the media design and i got 225 euro per month! i could never afford a vacation if i live on my own! i cant even afford to live,i will DIE!
if there is one thing that will make me thing something good about obama again is to see him dump that trainwreck michelle. hes still going to be bilderberg,but atleast hell make me happy



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:48 AM
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This is taunting. They want a negative public reaction. This is the bait for a conservative response. There is likely a race card retort at the ready if the anti-Obama sentiment is strong enough. The WH will trot out examples of the Bushes and Reagans during more prosperous years. Michele has been hyped as the black Jackie O. You had a "white Camelot" now for your "black Camelot". It was Bill C. and not Barry that said "I feel your pain". This man and his family have never lived the American experience. They are foreigners in this country. Hawaiian vacations (that's another world), globe trotting to Islamic destinations from the moment he was elected and now this.

You will have noticed in recent weeks that the tide for the Dems has turned. (But not really!) Ethics investigations that started years ago are coming to a head. Waters, Rangel and if you recall Dodd is retiring so as not to have his sweetheart mortgage investigated further. You might think this is a small victory for the Republicans. It is not as these three were near the end of their usefulness, they will make way for younger even more socialistic lions. While this turmoil is still in the headlines Barry pushed through Kagan. She will be far more damaging to the country than these three ever were as hard as that is to believe. Slight of hand, that's how this gets done. Look over here while we do this behind your back. Poof! A little more of your future just went down the toilet.

The vacation's a smart move for Ms Obama. Oprah might say "that girl really knows a bargain". Vacationing in Spain, I imagine the exchange rate with a failing socialist country is advantageous to say the least. Perhaps she wants her daughter to experience what the US will be like in the coming years. They can then write this off as some type of higher educational expense.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Stillalive
your still forgetting that your "poor" americans are rich guys in my country,theyr care free and brainwashed sheep. i was into the media design and i got 225 euro per month! i could never afford a vacation if i live on my own! i cant even afford to live,i will DIE!

be thankful u have a job at any pay rate.
millions here do not even have that so I
dont know how you can say we're rich Americans.
No food, no jobs, no house, no life.
and be thankful u have a working toilet.
I do not have a working toilet



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by kozmo
 

Really? Last time I checked, no one elected Michelle Obama to do ANYTHING.

SOOOOO, if a rich woman wants to go on a lot of vacations, what's it to you?



Yesh, people today. All of you would just hate my guts (although I'm quite sure a few already do lol and I'm not even First Lady). I wouldn't be running all over the planet acting like I did something serious if I was First Lady. Oh no, I'd be cursing at reporters, doing all the things I normally do in day to day life and spending my money however I saw fit. I wouldn't give a damn what the state of the economy was. Like Michelle is beholding to you. I've got 9 dollars to my name right now. I don't expect anyone to live a certain way just because I happen to busted and disgusted right now. That's some BS.

Guess what? Some people aren't broke. There's a lady down the street in this row of 80 to 100G stick houses who sends her kid to private school and has fancy things in her house. I mean nice ya'll. She's got those designer furnishings you see in magazines. I know cause I saw her couch in House Beautiful a few issues back. So, should i go down there and tell her what a mondo wench she is for daring to flaunt this kind of wealth in a down economy? No, I should mind my own damn business. I didn't cry when Bush took his vacations. That's his right. I certainly didn't cry when Laura went somewhere. That's her right. Michelle Obama is not in charge of any critical office. If she is locked in the bathroom for a week with old McDonalds and a jug of water and WW3 starts-We'll all be fine, cause she doesn't run nothing anyway.

Maybe it's cause i'm mature, but I don't fault people for spending their money in the manner they see fit. As for it being the president's birthday and somehow this shows martial woes-please, I don't care about my birthday. It is rarely ever celebrated around these parts. I've got a pretty good marriage too. That might what is going on here. He might just be one of those people who doesn't care about it.

And if she wasn't taking her vacation most of the same people who be criticizing the woman for being a bump on a log.

[edit on 7-8-2010 by antonia]

[edit on 7-8-2010 by antonia]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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I wasn't going to say anything, but, when you take into consideration the "spread the wealth around, stand they took during the campaign, then this makes them look hypocritical,

What is the amount 360,000 or so for this trip alone?

That would have done a lot of good at a homeless shelter or a soup kitchen.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
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“Any additional footprint,” says a White House aide, “including additional rooms needed for security support, falls under the same rules as have applied to any previous first-family travel: the costs are split appropriately, with private expenses paid for privately; government expenses are paid for by the government.”


There ya go.


Thanks for proving my point. I am already aware that security is on our dime -- as it should be -- however, I think that it is unnecessary to cause us further expense -- have you seen consumer spending outlook, real estate reports, and the job market? -- during these most difficult times.

For anyone that thinks having security in the White House and having an entourage of staff and security in Spain is of equal cost is grasping at straws to simply defend yet another snub to Americans.

If this going to be the lasting memory from his presidency? No.
Is this going to be what sparks a revolution? I should hope not.

But that doesn't mean that it isn't wrong and that the timing isn't terrible.

If Americans continue to turn a blind eye to every "couple of hundred of thousands of dollars" needed from us for government merely to go on with their lives we are going to be facing the same problems, the same arguments, the same outrage for decades more. From the right and the left. Believe you me, the right vacations and spends just as much -- again, it makes it wrong twice, not a wash.

At some point -- and I believe that time is now -- we have to put our foot down and say enough. Like I said in another post, there are more than 30 million Americans unemployed -- that we, the taxpayers, are already having trouble supporting.

If the trip cost us $50,000, that would have covered the unemployment / welfare benefits for at least one person. Unfortunately, we are in the midst of a situation where that matters.

Whether or not you agree with the Republicans voting against unemployment benefits simply because they want the money to actually come from existent funds and not add to the deficit, it doesn't change the fact that the money is simply not there.

I, and I'm sure others, would care a lot less about her trip to Spain if anything relating to the economy was looking up.

Real estate has yet to reach rock bottom, jobless claims continue to escalate, foreclosures will approach one million this year alone......... I bet the people losing their house, unable to put food on their table, unable to find work would have really appreciated a $50K vacation paid for by the taxpayers.

It is not illegal, it is not impeachable -- it's just really unnecessary and overly extravagant at a time when everyone else is seriously pinching pennies.



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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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If the jobs and the economy were improving as promised would we have even noticed this?

Hell, if it was getting better I'm sure no one would have complained about this.

Please realize that the Obamas know that this is a one term presidency and frankly don't give a damn about public image.




posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:27 AM
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theyr care free and brainwashed sheep.


OH yes we are all carefree and brainwashed, seriously?




posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by revdrdrsunshine
Look,

You are supposed to know about it. You are supposed to get angry. - and - You have no recourse. You are to sit there and take it. Watch the elite on TV take a holiday while you struggle to feed your children. Watch MTV cribs to see the lifestyle you will never have. Watch someone else play with a ball for a million. And obey your rightfully-ordained-by-bloodline-to-rule leaders. Get used to it. This is yet more of your conditioning to be spit upon figurativly and sit there and take it. You can yell and scream, but in the end, you get it. (no pun intended.. or maybe pun intended.. yes..) because you don't matter. You are nothing. Understand? What you gonna do? Huh? Bark little dog. -- well thats how they see I think.. I could be wrong.. RDDS
Even though it is like that, you really think we should all stay quiet and let them continue parasiting on us? I've got 3 words for you:

Strength in numbers.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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Michelle Obama simply has no class. Other than that, she is not that much different than many past first wives, about on par with the most self-centered and self-serving of the group.
Of course the right-wing will follow her around because she is such a great spokeswoman for the out of touch elite class.

When the Murchisons (Clint) struck oil in Texas, they were a bunch of backwoods hillbillies. Suddenly, they had the same kind of money that the entrenched Easterners had, but without the lessons in etiquette. The Murchison wives would go in a fine clothing store back EAST and buy EVERYTHING.
"Gimme all them there dresses and stuff"...
They were the inspiration for "The Beverly Hillbillies" (they had to get back at them somehow.)
They say Murchison had a hand in Kennedy's assassination.

This crap is nothing new, it is just M.O. doesn't even TRY to pretend she is a good person deserving of adoration. She simply doesn't care what YOU and I think.

I say, p*ss on them all, don't single out just one.



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