Anger mounts over Michelle Obama's 5-day Spanish holiday

Ahh Can it!

Bush did EXACTLY the same - probably worse knowing that dumkopf redneck...

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by whatukno
Yes and we KNOW the kind of change YOU would make if put in charge!

Ill take Obama's change over yours any day!

that goes to show just how little you
think of our US Constitution.

U would take a tyrant over a national charter document.
You are the kind of people that wanna burn the
national archives cuz it doesn't suit ur agenda.

it needs protecting, as it comes under attack daily

I personally am the kind of person that tries to act out of reason and not fear and hate or frustration. NEVER a good way of dealing with things.
But hey that is my opinion.
But I wish you al the best and hope you get what you want and deserve in life. (I really do, no sarcasme)
I just don't see how your way is any better then their way.


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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by whatukno
Yes and we KNOW the kind of change YOU would make if put in charge!

Ill take Obama's change over yours any day!

that goes to show just how little you
think of our US Constitution.

U would take a tyrant over a national charter document.
You are the kind of people that wanna burn the
national archives cuz it doesn't suit ur agenda.

it needs protecting, as it comes under attack daily

And you're the type of person who picks and chooses which parts of the Constitution you agree with. Either you believe in the whole document or you don't. But you guys come on here claiming your rights are being taken away or that Michelle is spending your money.

Let me ask you a question. Do you actually think she had a say on how she got to Spain? Is she not suppose to go on vacation because you can't? Oh let me guess, perception is the better part of politics. That's a strawman position to take. Why? Because you don't seem to care about the top 1 or 2 percent going on vacation during economic hard times. And they are the one's who actually control everything.

Well, I'd rather have an honest first lady than a dishonest former President.

your actualy right,and i can damn right do alot more then just plant a tree,that is when i live in a nice country that screws me,i would do charity,i would help people,but i WONT HELP ungratefull people,or ignorant people.

Originally posted by felonius
You know how you can just "look" at people and sometimes read what they're like?

the first time I saw this female (I refuse to call her a "lady") I knew right off the bat she was a B-atch.

Its all in the smile, the eye's, and teeth. You cant cover up that kind of arrogance with a fake smile.

Hillary on the other hand is just a "broad shouldered bitch"! I dont like her politics but the lady has more guts than a lot of men.

MO is evil vindictive. She is an "agripina".

HC is power hungry and calculating. She is more "lady macbeth" without the need of a man.

Felonius, I think you right about both MO & HC. One of the things that came out during the Blago trial is the taped statement made that Barack Obama is "henpecked" -- made me laugh cause it's TRUE. In private, Michelle wears the b*lls in that family.

SeaWind

Originally posted by ElijahWan
reply to post by lpowell0627

 

Did you ever consider that we were losing A LOT more jobs when Obama took office than we are now? No, of course not. How about that the GDP is up a good $150B this year? Perhaps you might give our President a bit of a....reprieve...when it comes to the hard-work he's put in.
Not to mention, the focus of this thread started out, with criticizing Michelle Obama , and how terribly lavish she was with her spending. Once some of the posters realized that "oh....you mean they paid with PERSONAL money, and taxpayers only paid for Security Detail and Travel costs", than the issue became that Obama had taken TOO MANY VACATIONS.....

Yet you have Bush, who used Air-force one 77 times for personal trips, yet you didn't hear anyone getting their knickers in a twist. (Besides maybe Michael Moore).

It's like I said in my first post....This only becomes an issue when one party is in power and the other wants to make an issue of a NON-ISSUE.

PLEASE STOP THE HYPOCRISY!

Some good points but you forget that the Bushes are largely white, try telling a European Spaniard he aint white, and the Obamas are largely Black so must be freeloaders and crap at their job like all crypto Marxist socialist err fascists

Originally posted by Stillalive
your actualy right,and i can damn right do alot more then just plant a tree,that is when i live in a nice country that screws me,i would do charity,i would help people,but i WONT HELP ungratefull people,or ignorant people.

So how is that better then what is happening now?

Originally posted by Stillalive
your actualy right,and i can damn right do alot more then just plant a tree,that is when i live in a nice country that screws me,i would do charity,i would help people,but i WONT HELP ungratefull people,or ignorant people.

I know I'm right. You don't need to tell me this. Your agenda was to make a claim against the President that he should donate his vacation time to whatever. That the Obama's should never go on vacation or devote time to themselves.

I disagree with your claim. Why? Because you would NEVER donate your vacation money to anything other than yourself. But you expect them to?

Why should they? No one else is doing it. And even if they did it your GOP buddies will claim its some kind of vote getting trick. The GOP wouldn't follow suit that's for sure. They would just make up outlandish claims like its a vote getting ploy.

FYI, when Barack or Michelle Obama do something thats BS, a reasonable response is not one about Bush. If Bush or Obama did it, its wrong. This isn't team sports and you don't root for one side. Obama and his wife treat the White House like their gravy train. If Bush did the same, its just as wrong. Obama spends money with no regard for tax payers. Bush did the same. Stop excusing Obama's crap because Bush did it also

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So ah... when are you guys going to start talking about politics in the political section of the forum ?

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so if your right then USA right now should be better then before? jee i dont really think its better then before,it seems that the whole country is falling apart,on top of being a puppet of wallstreet,on top of making all decisions against the people,healthcare,martial law,ban the guns,when he promised to stop all wars,he now wants to attack iran?
what happend to his peace and new ways? ah hes concetrating them to shut down sites like ours. only good thing hes doing for me is making immigration to usa easyer,so i can come and steal some jobs from american people. when he does something nice for the country then he can have a vacation, now the country is at the merge of falling apart and hes taking a vacation? its not the right time to take a vacation!
support him all you want,you see the conditions you live in,well if you have a nice secure job then you dont really have to care,if you dont mind the poisonous vaccines and the chemical foods water and milk.

im actualy doing something about it,when i dont like the corruption in my country i MOVE OUT,i go to a country that likes me and i help that country,with my skills,with my heart.
its "logic"

Originally posted by crichton13
Ahh Can it!

Bush did EXACTLY the same - probably worse knowing that dumkopf redneck...

Oh yeah, crichton13, George "Dubya" Bush that "dumkopf redneck" --
Yup, Bush got that redneck plowing them thar fields at Harvard.

SeaWind

actualy what kind of a MAN would want to spend his birthday alone with his friends WITHOUT his wife? what is wrong with him? is that some kinda of sick muslim tradition or something? is that hes view on women?

Originally posted by Subjective1
So please tell us your sollution...
I am all ears.

if Obama were to call me in his office
tomorrow and ask for my counsel to fix
America's problems. My statements to him
would go similar to this.

Short Term Goals: (1 yr)
1) Secure the Border by any means necessary

2) Fire every congressman/woman who held dual Israeli/American citizenship as their loyalty is NOT to the US. Hold free elections for their replacements within 3 months. That also includes his cabinet appointees. This is NOT Israel, this is America.

3) Foreign policy toward Israel would be neutral. Halt all arms sales to Israel AND to ALL middle eastern countries.

4) Retire the CIA. Those who wanted to remain in service be absorbed into Homeland Security.

5) Cease all judicial procedures against any state's immigration policies.

6) Repeal NAFTA and promote job growth in America by forcing American Comp. to make products here. And if they continue using other countries labor, then double tax them to force the point.

7) All troops in Iraq and Afgh would be brought home as fast as possible to ensure their safety.

8) Stop being the world's policeman

9) Halt any further aggression against Iran or Pakistan.

10) Reopen 9/11 investigation with actual results and give subpoena powers to the commission to follow the leads wherever they may go.

11) Urge the SEC to re-open all files related to stock market fraud and insider trading. This investigation cannot be hindered by the CIA and officials cannot hide behind National Security Immunity blanket.

12) Audit the FED

13) Close all unnecessary bases on foreign soil where the host country did not want us there.

14) Repeal the Obamacare Law

15) Repeal the Patriot Act

16) Repeal GW Bush's Presidential Pardon

17) Open a war crimes tribunal for crimes against humanity starting from the date of the Oklahoma City Bombing up to present to include 9/11.

18) Instead of giving stimulus funds to bankers and wall street. I would give every American citizen equally so they could have the option of either spending it to pay bills and keep their houses or start their own businesses.

19) If a business is caught employing illegals then it is a mandatory 5 yr prison term.

20) I would force sanctions on Israel til they established a permanent border and recognized a Palestinian state authority. Palestine needs a home country and respect. I'm not saying move Israel out. Just the land be shared to borders prior to 1967.


Long Term Goals: (2 yrs)

1) Totally end the FED and print US Treasury Notes. With oversight of this entity by congressional committee and there will be audits.

2) Term Limits on ALL Congressmen/women. 2 consecutive terms. No more lifer politicians.

3) Would make the US a 3-party system. Republicans, Democrats and Tea Party. Tea Party would get their own caucus and their own candidates for offices.

4) Totally end the IRS. Income to be by use taxes and sales taxes on items and services. If you don't use them, u don't pay them. Corporations will still be taxed and monitored by the Treasury Dept.

5) Restore the Constitution and keep it safe from deviant entities.

6) Stop all housing repossessions. If you are in possession, it is yours. Any home purchased after implementation date is subject to different honest financing.

7) Foreign Policy would be turned into a non-aggressive stance.

8) Military Budget would be cut in half. All black ops budgets redistributed to Social Security, Education and Healthcare of Americans.

9) Work with congress to pass a healthcare system that the people can agree on and not force particulars on any American. Leave them with options, not demands.

10) Repeal any federal laws which impede states from running their own state as they see fit.

11) Downsize federal government and cut the red tape bureaucracy and decrease federal spending so we can have a balanced budget.


I have more but I won't bore you Mr. President.

Originally posted by Stillalive
actualy what kind of a MAN would want to spend his birthday alone with his friends WITHOUT his wife? what is wrong with him? is that some kinda of sick muslim tradition or something? is that hes view on women?

Stillalive, the Obamas do NOT have a traditional marriage. Their marriage is NOT what it appears to be on the surface. It's a marriage of convenience. Not a lot of love or romance between them.

I don't really believe Obama is a Muslim. I very much doubt if he believes in God or Karma at all. He poses as a Christian for purely political purposes. Obama is all about power & money for himself.

SeaWind

reply to post by boondock-saint


Boondock-saint, I agree with a lot on your list. If only....

SeaWind

Originally posted by SeaWind
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

Boondock-saint, I agree with a lot on your list. If only....

SeaWind

thank you SW

he asked what my solutions were
so I gave it to him

hold on man,they cant just stop selling weapons,alot of money comes from this,blood money,but if your hoping to fix the country,you cant start by stopping selling weapons.

i didnt know that seawind,hmm but cant barack find a nice wife that loves and respects him,why would he keep this stupid harpy,when he could get alot more beautifull golddigger?

reply to post by boondock-saint


boondock-saint

I am Not American and therefore my opinion is as an 'Outsider' BUT

I think most of your list is actually straight forward common sense....

Would it be implemented?? Probably NOT because there are too many in positions of power in your country who have VESTED interests and would NOT like to see an end to their LIFETIME political careers....

We have a sort of similar issue in the UK where some people are realizing that the OLD and redundant party politics of Red, Blue, Yellow and the rest NEED to be REPLACED by more of a coalition or consensus for the population and NOT the bloody politicians...

Regards

PurpleDOG UK

Originally posted by PurpleDog UK
there are too many in positions of power in your country who have VESTED interests and would NOT like to see an end to their LIFETIME political careers....

ya see, that's a huge problem.
we have to stop the politicians from
abusing the system.

I wanna end the corruption
and place limits on their terms
so they do not learn how to
bypass laws and abuse the system.

when they get comfortable in those seats
then they forget who they really serve and
work for.