ET Interview: Video of Grey Alien Interview Smuggled from Area 51, page 2
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reply posted on 20-6-2004 @ 01:38 PM by Boogie
Originally posted by theRiverGoddess

I have concluded this video is a fake...BECAUSE, we are always told the greys are SMALL beings, SMALLER than humans......WAY smaller than us, and this things head was BIGGER than a humans head.

Also, any LIVING creature blinks his/her eyes ESPECIALLY when/if someone is messing with you and shineing lights in your eyes.....this creature did not blink even one time.....NO muscle movement around the eyes at all.

I conclude it was not real....it was just some person wearing a mask.



Fish blink? Insects blink?...Not defending the video, but I think an alien lifeform doesn't need to blink to prove it is real. Greys are supposedly varying in height buy usually in the 4-5ft range, which looks ok to me in the video, but I've never had the pleasure of meeting one (don't know if I want to either). Just the overall poor quality of the video is what makes me give up on this thing, along with the guy who snuck it out not ever revealing himself.

You can always claim FX on all these videos anymore since the tech to make these creatures is so good anymore. I saw something on that griffen creature they made for the latest Harry Potter movie, and it is flat out incredible how life-like they made the full size version (no CGI, the real thing). People who have these videos and other information are just going to have to forfeit their secrecy in order to prove their legitamacy. If they worked at Area 51, then they'll have to provide badges and pay stubs, other workers testimony...and even then people would think they faked things. I don't really see how anyone could prove they were "for real" unless they were a high ranking officer that has a great reputation (if Colin Powell said "there are aliens", I'd tend to believe him).


reply posted on 20-6-2004 @ 02:59 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by RX84
First of all, Bob Lazar is a real fake. Don't trust him.


And he's been frequently debunked, too (as has this video.)
www.ufomind.com...

It is a fake; a puppet/muppet sort of construct, which is why it's shown in a dark room and why you can't see anything but the face and a bit of the neck and shoulders.

2. Why is the video poor quality I worked in Navy intel and Know there are military Video and photographers who could make it very clear, what was the purpose of filming this to the military?

Absolutely correct. They had technology that could have given a clear view of the creature's body even if it was in dim light -- but of course, they didn't dare do this because then you'd see it was fake.

Further, it's been pointed out a number of times that the creature doesn't react to that bright light being shined into those huge eyes. The movements of the head are consistant with the light-shiner's manipulations of the head. The light-shining activity is ... random. There's no point in shining the light UNDER the creature's chin. The angles of the light are simply to highlight the face and leave the rest in mysterious shadows.

There's also something odd about the surgical gloves the "investigator" is wearing.

He further explains that Victor deliberately removed the audio
track to protect the identity of the men in the video and to also
help protect his own anonymity.


Victor later came forward and said he'd faked this and the autopsy material.

George Knapp, the TV journalist who encouraged Bob Lazar to go public with his knowledge has shown that Lazar's pay cheques from the time he claimed to be working at Area 51 had DNI stamped on them.


I think that perhaps he wasn't as careful as he could have been. A fairly casual research would show that this wasn't true.

Notice also that the video has been edited -- and here's the telling point -- if you shoot video with a date stamp in it (easy to change), then WHEN YOU ZOOM, YOU DON'T ZOOM THE DATE OUT OF THE FRAME.

In this movie, the date and other things zoom out of the frame during the closeups. So it's been edited to show ONLY what someone wanted. Edited for theatric effect. Edited to clip out mistakes. It restarts again with the numbers on the footage again... and again you get the zooming effect.

Nope. Drama. Not truth.

Victor believes that if his identity is discovered and
he is subsequently assassinated, this would only further help to
confirm the claims and authenticity behind the film.


...and then he gets interviewed on the Art Bell show and other places. Let's compare his actions with those of Osama bin Ladin, someone who is definately under threat of assassination if he rears his ugly head. Victor calls the Art Bell show and talks live. Osama sends taped recordings. It's amazing that all these people who supposedly would be "killed if their identity was known" show up at UFO conventions and other places (announced and advertised) and... my goodness... they haven't been killed at all. Imagine that bin Ladin was at a UFO convention. How long would it take the Feds to nab him?

Suppose he did it on a regular basis... how long do you think it would be before someone assassinated him? And yet these folks are still walking around.

Victor also was supposedly the one behind the "alien autopsy" footage -- another hoax video.


reply posted on 21-6-2004 @ 06:55 PM by VORTEXAS
You people make me laugh ....Nice short answers with one purpose ....Plant the seed of doubt..


Oh, and people shouldn't doubt what they see? That is the path to ignorance. I don't accept every conspircay and alien video there are, I try to look at both the "believer" side, and the "skeptics". I suggest people to do this. Alongside with checking the source, who said it, what channels are sending it? etc...


No, but folks like you don't just doubt what you see and move on, you CONCLUDE in about two seconds and one paragraph that it is a fake, without backing it up.

2. Why is the video poor quality I worked in Navy intel and Know there are military Video and photographers who could make it very clear, what was the purpose of filming this to the military?


Well, because if the footage would be clear, we would probably see the fake right away. The hoaxers want us to wonder wheter it is a real alien or not.


No, actually it's more likely that the EBE didn't like bright lights. Have you ever been on a professional indoor photo shoot. The lights they use for the kind of clarity you demand and are used to seeing on TV are BRIGHT, VERY BRIGHT. For someone with eyes as big as his, no wonder he's a little sensitive to light! So it's shot on video in a dark room, with minimal lighting. That's what it looks like. It's grainy and fuzzy and dark. The doctors have to shine bright flashlights to see what they are doing when he supposedly starts choking. That's why they are there and have flashlights handy. This probably happens frequently, (the choking).

..It seems EVERYTIME a post is made with a photograph or video or ufo ..Someone ALWAYS shouts 'Fake' but with NO supporting evidence ..Jeez < Shakes head >



What else should people do? Do you have supporting evidence that the footage is real?

Why doesn't people ask themselves how these tapes really get out? The Alien Autopsy got out, yet, we only recieved the copy. This movie was copied too. Wow, so they can get anything but the original out of any military installation... hmm... strange. I'm sure there will be another one, and another one after that one, and so on.


Use your head, man! If you wanted to get something out without anyone knowing for awhile, who you A) take their original or B) make a copy??

Yes, there will be another one and another one. This is one thing you are right about. Somebody wants us to think or know that aliens exist. I'm not sure why, but it's obvious, all you have to do is open your eyes. And it's not just a few nutjobs, this conspiracy reaches up as high it goes. That is my opinion.


And when the day comes when a really good fake is released, and people believe in it, then they will continue their story with books, info, and so on. Everything to sell and get money for their hoax, if not make another one.


If you really believe that these are all fakes just to make money, you should probably find other threads to post in. There is so much overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I won't waste my time listing them all here. With a little bit of research, you can figure it out for yourself. Check out Sgt. Clifford Stone and Project Disclosure for starters.

And beyond this I find no more point in debating you further. It's just more suppositions based on a fallacy.

[edit on 21-6-2004 by VORTEXAS]
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