Someone should make a website dedicated to 'Victor'. lol
He deserves something. We need to show him some appreciation wherever he is.
[I bet he comes on to ATS every once in a while. ]
Or maybe he's dead, but still there needs to be a "Victor.com"

I actually felt bad for him when he said "thanks for a compassion" sarcastically to the filmmakers in the 2008 interview .
We should show him some compassion and love.

I'd also like to add; that this footage 'Victor' brought fourth also gave me a strange feeling when I saw it. This being (whatever it's name is) looks to me like it's alive in the video. I get this feeling that it's real.
Especially when it did that half-wink.

lol
I was just thinking that somebody should give it a name. hahaha
It's really a cute being, IMO.

How about Earl? Gary?
Kareem?
or maybe Benny?

or perhaps Molly?

OR a unisex name: Jordan-Taylor?
We could call him/her "JT" for short.

...or nvm.

I actually have a question for ATS members (maybe it's a stupid question, but here goes; I'll build up to it).

I really dislike how, now, people can mess around and make convincing CGI/puppetry/photoshopping etc at home. It makes everything so difficult for people on this forum
(as I have read many times).
It's quite frustrating. Makes you kind of have to have faith in all this...and I don't really like faith, I much prefer evidence.

Is there any other photos/videos that are of the same can't-be-proved-and-can't-really-be-disproved nature?? Or is the Alien interview really all the visual evidence there is to support the theory of ETs?

Basically, I am coming here saying, since Rosewell (62 yrs ago) "what do we have so far" as 'real' evidence?

Pls answer.

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Pleeeaase?

Im pretty sure this video has already been tested and is regarded as a fake

^ far as I've heard it hasn't been.

Can you back that up with proof? Did someone do a study on the footage or something?

Last I heard no one could or could not disprove it.

So, are you saying that there still really isn't much visual evidence of these 'beings' from a different place in space or different dimension?

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Maybe this isn't the least bit interesting to any of you, but I have just spent time listening to "Victor" 2008 interview reversed.

Why?

According to the theory of 'reverse speech' I was able to pick up some of what his unconscious mind was saying.

I'll share with you what I was able to make out if interested.

[edit on 14-8-2009 by Before2017Victor]

Meh, I'll just go ahead and post them anyway. Thought I'd give without being asked even if it might turn out to be nonsense.


Here's what I found.


I kept hearing him say what sounded like "off me" quite frequently.
And I heard 'Alien' and 'It's an Alien'.

Mostly what I am talking about is what I heard in PART 2 of the 2008 interview played backwards.

I forget now exactly where, but I wrote down that I had heard him say:

- "Well I am honest, ask people to look when there’s enough Ebs that’s it. I am honest. I am honest and I’d like him to be."

- "I sleep with a mask"

- "The opposite means what I feel in this suit"

- "I wouldn't know if it's it"


Now, specifically when he's talking about how President Bush is irrelevant. He says, "He's irrelevant. Irrelevant to the process, irrelevant to the process of government."

When I play the part backwards slowed down, maybe this is a giant stretch, but I heard "But who would risk his life, but who would risk his life? There’s nothing like this. That’s not how I race."

Also, at one point he says, "The Ebs, to my knowledge, are all at this time deceased if you were to call it that."

But, played reversed, I picked up "We should see sitting here and... all sick lying on the TV."


Why did I do this pretty pointless task?
I guess I was trying to see if in reversed I could hear him say a name, perhaps it'd be his. I came up with "Murphy Wolf". Or Murry or maybe Maury.


...Yea, I think I've completely lost my mind as of now.
Well, it gave me something to do at least. lol

It was kind of disturbing listening to Victor backwards, but weirdly enough he kept sounding, to me, as if he continually said "woof".
Like a dog or something.

lol Anyway, maybe that means something to someone. I have yet to play the Art Bell interview backwards...actually on second thought that might be pointless and insane to do that.

Does anyone believe that Reverse Speech is going to give any extra revealing information?

Probably not.

Oh well, I tried.

[edit on 15-8-2009 by Before2017Victor]

Wow, old thread but a good topic.

I had several versions of this video that I got from the web back when it was first making the rounds. Still keep one on my HD just because it is one of the more interesting alien vids ever to surface.

I have heard this video 'debunked' many times but have never once seen or heard any evidence that is worthy of absolute belief. Debunkers regularly demand 'proof' that something is real but rarely, if ever, provide that same degree of proof when labeling something a fake.

In short, just because someone says that something is either this, or that, does not make it so. In this arena, your word is not gold and your evidence is never convincing enough to stop the world from spinning, lol!

Is it the real deal? I dunno but... if it is a fraud, it is damn sure well done, worthy of Hollywood.

^ Or would the being have known that we'd all be seeing that footage?

Just another way to look at it. Perhaps it's not helpful though.

Or maybe somebody knew the footage would get leaked out. Who knows?

And thank you for saying my reverse speech information was interesting reading.
I don't know how credible it is, but it is an interesting topic.

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Bump

This still has not been proven or debunked. Victor may not be alive any longer to provide us with answers.

Where was Donald Rumsfeld on March 23rd of 2008 as Victor asks us to research?

I think we all need to take a deeper look into the mystery of this video footage.

Victor also predicts that we will not survive past 2017.

The public really must look hard at this video and try to gather clues or decipher Victor's messages and identity. Time may be running out. I believe this video to be real. We gotta start doing research and taking a much closer look at the video and what Victor has said.

Why isn't this in the HOAX forum??

It should be because this one is an OLD OLD OLD PROVEN HOAX. PERIOD!

Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Why isn't this in the HOAX forum??

It should be because this one is an OLD OLD OLD PROVEN HOAX. PERIOD!

Oh my God this is the best evidence anywhere of the existence of Aliens. This has been proven true soooo many times, that it blows my mind people still are fighting it. [/sarcasm]

See thats what it looks like when you just blurt out something with no evidence.

Please next time you 'debunk' something or tell us how fake it is, give us a little evidence...

Pred...

Originally posted by predator0187
This has been proven true soooo many times, that it blows my mind people still are fighting it. [/sarcasm]

See thats what it looks like when you just blurt out something with no evidence.

Please next time you 'debunk' something or tell us how fake it is, give us a little evidence...

Pred...

Proven?? 'Soooo many times'? Proof? Show it! It's proved to be a fake so many times that it blows my mind people still are fighting it. [sarcasm]

See that's what it looks like when you just blurt out something with no evidence.

Please next time you try and 'prove' something or tell us how real it is, give us a little evidence...

Tit for tat! Both can play this game, right?